Why didn't GM make the vert a hard top vert? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Ironheadspearo · 04-14-2011, 02:55 PM

I have always wanted a convertible but it would kill me to own a soft top knowing that the tops only hold up so long before you need to replace them. i would assume that a new top for something like a camaro might run upwards of 3000 bucks when the time comes to replace it. you would think that GM could have designed a hard top convertible. Volkswagen did it and it looks quite cool in motion.

BloodUSMC · 04-14-2011, 03:05 PM

Now that would be a true transformer!

NoSyT · 04-14-2011, 03:06 PM

Because hard top 'verts are ugly?

Seriously though, the soft top is cheaper, and it is a pretty decent match to the lines of the coupe. I've never seen a 'vert that look like a hard top, they usually look like 2 cars taken apart and reassembled wrong.

Edge.128 · 04-14-2011, 03:11 PM

this again? hmmmm incresed weight, price, cost, parts, etc....

woodj · 04-14-2011, 03:13 PM

Assuming the entire top comes off, where would you store it? The current soft top takes up half of the trunk and the trunk is way too small from the start.

I don't know how the removable hard tops you're trying to compare to work.

benradmo · 04-14-2011, 03:15 PM

OP I agree 100% I would gladly pay the 3k for a hard top. I love convertibles with top down. My previous car was a soft top. Will never by a soft top again.
Could not get myself to purchase the 5th gen with a soft top. Just does not look as good as the coupe with the top up.

BloodUSMC · 04-14-2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Because hard top 'verts are ugly?

Seriously though, the soft top is cheaper, and it is a pretty decent match to the lines of the coupe. I've never seen a 'vert that look like a hard top, they usually look like 2 cars taken apart and reassembled wrong.

REALLY??

show me one!

Ron66Vette&10SS · 04-14-2011, 03:20 PM

I agree. A HUGE part of the "look" of the 5th Gen is the roof line and the soft top up kills the look for me.....I was really hoping they would offer a hard top on it.

I'm sure it probably came down to an isue of weight AND expense.

Ironheadspearo · 04-14-2011, 03:28 PM

http://vimeo.com/3408674

here is a video of an eos working. if you can get past this flaming dude and the car i could see this would have worked possibly on our cars. just skip to 2:15 of the video

LolatheSlush · 04-14-2011, 03:31 PM

i agree with you! i totally would have gotten the vert if it were a convertible hard top with a sunroof just like the EOS...

we can dream....

acatlover13 · 04-14-2011, 03:37 PM

Could just also be "traditional" Camaro. The Camaro convertible has never been offered as a hard-top, so why start now? Also, like it or not, we have to face that the Camaro's biggest competitor is the Mustang.....soft top vert.

And it's not like hard top convertibles don't ever have problems. They can still eventually have leaking/alignment issues. Mechanisms can go bad on both types, but as I understand it, the weight of a hard top convertible causes those to have more problems in that area. Plus they are more expensive, and Chevrolet is trying to keep the car competitive and give it mass appeal.

Just my thoughts.

woodj · 04-14-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironheadspearo

http://vimeo.com/3408674

here is a video of an eos working. if you can get past this flaming dude and the car i could see this would have worked possibly on our cars. just skip to 2:15 of the video

Interesting. If you watch without the audio you can miss out on the flaming dude.

My vert has a beige top and I think it's going to be a real PITA to keep clean. That stow away top on that VW is a better option but probably too many $$$ on a Camaro.

Ironheadspearo · 04-14-2011, 03:45 PM

i saw an EOS up close open and close the top, i could see major appeal for it on a camaro being everyone is infatuated with the whole transformer thing. the EOS top looks almost robotic.

Iroczlover · 04-14-2011, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

I agree. A HUGE part of the "look" of the 5th Gen is the roof line and the soft top up kills the look for me.....I was really hoping they would offer a hard top on it.

I'm sure it probably came down to an isue of weight AND expense.

yes it did come down to weight, exprense & safety.

04-14-2011, 02:55 PM	#1
Ironheadspearo ride the pain train Drives: 2011 1LT RS, 1998 fxstc HD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 2,047	Why didn't GM make the vert a hard top vert? I have always wanted a convertible but it would kill me to own a soft top knowing that the tops only hold up so long before you need to replace them. i would assume that a new top for something like a camaro might run upwards of 3000 bucks when the time comes to replace it. you would think that GM could have designed a hard top convertible. Volkswagen did it and it looks quite cool in motion. __________________ PAIN is temporary, PRIDE is forever......RACE HARD

04-14-2011, 03:05 PM	#2
BloodUSMC Blood Sucking War Machine Drives: Black 2011 Camaro 2LT/RS - A6 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Northern, NJ Posts: 661	Now that would be a true transformer! __________________ BLACK 2011 2LT/RS COUPE. Roto Fab Intake, MRT 1.0, OBX LT Headers, Magnaflow resonated x pipe, Trifecta Tune

04-14-2011, 03:11 PM	#4
Edge.128 Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,911	this again? hmmmm incresed weight, price, cost, parts, etc.... __________________ 2010 Summit White Camaro LS / M6 MRT V2.0

04-14-2011, 03:13 PM	#5
woodj Drives: 2SS/RS RJT Vert Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 658 View My Garage	Assuming the entire top comes off, where would you store it? The current soft top takes up half of the trunk and the trunk is way too small from the start. I don't know how the removable hard tops you're trying to compare to work. __________________ K&N Typhoon CAI, Flowmaster Outlaw axle backs, Vertini 20" Wheels, Sparks Restorations SS Emblems, GM Wind Restrictor, Splash Guards

04-14-2011, 03:20 PM	#8
Ron66Vette&10SS Plays with Hot Wheels Drives: '17 Jet Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Derby, Kansas Posts: 849	I agree. A HUGE part of the "look" of the 5th Gen is the roof line and the soft top up kills the look for me.....I was really hoping they would offer a hard top on it. I'm sure it probably came down to an isue of weight AND expense. __________________ Previous Cars: '78 Z28, '92 Z28, '95 Z28, '85 Corvette, '01 SS, '96 Z28, '04 Z06 Corvette, '10 SS, '13 SS Hot Wheels Current Cars: '17 ZL1(daily driver), '04 Trailblazer (rain & snow), '66 Corvette (restoring)

04-14-2011, 03:06 PM	#3
NoSyT It's a Three Six, Vee Six Drives: '12 AGM 2LT/RS & '14 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 981 View My Garage	Because hard top 'verts are ugly? Seriously though, the soft top is cheaper, and it is a pretty decent match to the lines of the coupe. I've never seen a 'vert that look like a hard top, they usually look like 2 cars taken apart and reassembled wrong.

04-14-2011, 03:15 PM	#6
benradmo Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 146	OP I agree 100% I would gladly pay the 3k for a hard top. I love convertibles with top down. My previous car was a soft top. Will never by a soft top again. Could not get myself to purchase the 5th gen with a soft top. Just does not look as good as the coupe with the top up.

04-14-2011, 03:28 PM	#9
Ironheadspearo ride the pain train Drives: 2011 1LT RS, 1998 fxstc HD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 2,047	http://vimeo.com/3408674 here is a video of an eos working. if you can get past this flaming dude and the car i could see this would have worked possibly on our cars. just skip to 2:15 of the video __________________ PAIN is temporary, PRIDE is forever......RACE HARD

04-14-2011, 03:37 PM	#11
acatlover13 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Camaro IOM/IO Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lynn Haven, Florida Posts: 3,054 View My Garage	Could just also be "traditional" Camaro. The Camaro convertible has never been offered as a hard-top, so why start now? Also, like it or not, we have to face that the Camaro's biggest competitor is the Mustang.....soft top vert. And it's not like hard top convertibles don't ever have problems. They can still eventually have leaking/alignment issues. Mechanisms can go bad on both types, but as I understand it, the weight of a hard top convertible causes those to have more problems in that area. Plus they are more expensive, and Chevrolet is trying to keep the car competitive and give it mass appeal. Just my thoughts. __________________ ECC on Facebook 2010 Camaro SS/RS IOM, IO interior, Custom Striping, Razzi body kit ADM CAI w/scoop/Dynatech Headers & Hi-Flow Cats/Solo Performance Exhaust, FTI 3600 Stall/Comp Cams custom grind cam/LS3 conversion/FAST 102 Intake

04-14-2011, 03:45 PM	#13
Ironheadspearo ride the pain train Drives: 2011 1LT RS, 1998 fxstc HD Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 2,047	i saw an EOS up close open and close the top, i could see major appeal for it on a camaro being everyone is infatuated with the whole transformer thing. the EOS top looks almost robotic. __________________ PAIN is temporary, PRIDE is forever......RACE HARD

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