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Kodis16 · 03-16-2014, 10:27 PM

ive already posted a thread like this but I am actualy going to do a new cam very soon but im still not sure of exactly what cam to get? im not looking for everyone to suggest there own cam im just looking for for opinions on what everyone thinks the best powered cam out there is but I also don't want it to be all power with no torque but I would like a good amount of power too it doesn't have to be midranged and equal. I justy did a 9inch kit with 3.91 gears and I have 3in exhaust and lt headers and cai along with pfadt motor mounts bc coils and I also have a tire so I am basically trying to find the best cam for my modds I already made 428 rwhp and 426 rwtq soo any suggestions would be great. thanks! I also have the m6 ls3 btw and I do like the really lopey sound although that's not the reason im doing the cam.

also any dyno graphs pictures ect would be great along with it!

B-_-RAD · 03-17-2014, 01:15 AM

Night fury imo, the tq is better than just about all the others, and it makes ~480+. Also a great platform to add a centri blower to.

BigRed · 03-17-2014, 01:21 AM

Another Vote for the night Fury. I love the way my car feels now. Here is the dyno graph for mine plus a link to my build.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326533

B-_-RAD · 03-17-2014, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRed

Another Vote for the night Fury. I love the way my car feels now. Here is the dyno graph for mine plus a link to my build.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326533

There's that torque again.......

axis · 03-17-2014, 01:58 AM

That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq.

B-_-RAD · 03-17-2014, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq.

So you're saying that the nf cam gave no increase in tq? He picked up ~40, so is your claim that thats all the heads? Plenty of other cars out there making boat loads of tq with tjat cam and stock heads.

BigRed · 03-17-2014, 02:26 AM

Here is without the ported heads and intake. 450RWTQ

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=night+fury

B-_-RAD · 03-17-2014, 02:33 AM

Even 450rwtq is strong for basically cam only, that would be 40rwtq gain fron where I was with intake and headers.

axis · 03-17-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by B-_-RAD

So you're saying that the nf cam gave no increase in tq? He picked up ~40, so is your claim that thats all the heads? Plenty of other cars out there making boat loads of tq with tjat cam and stock heads.

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Originally Posted by BigRed

Here is without the ported heads and intake. 450RWTQ

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=night+fury

This.

I NEVER said the NFC didn't make tq. I said,

Quote:

That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq

I've yet to see a NFC or any similar sized cam get 480 ft/lbs of tq without heads. That's not a knock on any of them, just giving the OP accurate information. How would you feel if the OP installed a NFC without heads, at YOUR recommendation, and didn't get anywhere near 480 tq? The one above gained 24whp which is close to what's expected. Still very nice numbers either way.

62nalide · 03-17-2014, 09:27 AM

Best cam is the one you get SPEC'D for your setup/goals I am not a fan of a cam that hundreds run off the self plus From what I've been told the NF isn't always the same specs from what members have shared.

It sure sounds good and all but it isn't the best one out there just my 2 cents.

B-_-RAD · 03-17-2014, 10:56 AM

Here is another one at ~460 tq no heads.

The reason I went with the night fury is that the power comes on quickly and there isn't a huge loss in power/tq down low compared to other cams, yet it still produces above average numbers.

You could also use a smaller cam from rick crawford and mill the heads, which would probably net similar gains.

Avenging Orange · 03-17-2014, 04:22 PM

I agree what someone else said....do some research and choose what fits you best. Understand this...there are lots of cams that will increase hp/tq. The important thing is where in the rpm range this occures. For these heavy cars, you want your tq kicking in early in the rpms. My .02 would be keep the duration under 228 and lift under .600. Keep it tight with the lsa......112-108. You will get all the useable tq you need all under the curve.

Fred 6528 · 03-17-2014, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axis

This.

I NEVER said the NFC didn't make tq. I said,

I've yet to see a NFC or any similar sized cam get 480 ft/lbs of tq without heads. That's not a knock on any of them, just giving the OP accurate information. How would you feel if the OP installed a NFC without heads, at YOUR recommendation, and didn't get anywhere near 480 tq? The one above gained 24whp which is close to what's expected. Still very nice numbers either way.

My Night Fury has 477 torque with stock heads

Fred 6528 · 03-17-2014, 05:41 PM

This picture of dyno sheet shows the torgue of the Night Fury Cam with stock heads. The line went straight up until 4500 rpm then curved to 477. Name: dyno.jpg
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03-16-2014, 10:27 PM	#1
Kodis16 Drives: Red 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 66 View My Garage	best cam specs ive already posted a thread like this but I am actualy going to do a new cam very soon but im still not sure of exactly what cam to get? im not looking for everyone to suggest there own cam im just looking for for opinions on what everyone thinks the best powered cam out there is but I also don't want it to be all power with no torque but I would like a good amount of power too it doesn't have to be midranged and equal. I justy did a 9inch kit with 3.91 gears and I have 3in exhaust and lt headers and cai along with pfadt motor mounts bc coils and I also have a tire so I am basically trying to find the best cam for my modds I already made 428 rwhp and 426 rwtq soo any suggestions would be great. thanks! I also have the m6 ls3 btw and I do like the really lopey sound although that's not the reason im doing the cam. also any dyno graphs pictures ect would be great along with it!

03-17-2014, 01:58 AM	#5
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

03-17-2014, 09:27 AM	#10
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Best cam is the one you get SPEC'D for your setup/goals I am not a fan of a cam that hundreds run off the self plus From what I've been told the NF isn't always the same specs from what members have shared. It sure sounds good and all but it isn't the best one out there just my 2 cents. __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

03-17-2014, 04:22 PM	#12
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	I agree what someone else said....do some research and choose what fits you best. Understand this...there are lots of cams that will increase hp/tq. The important thing is where in the rpm range this occures. For these heavy cars, you want your tq kicking in early in the rpms. My .02 would be keep the duration under 228 and lift under .600. Keep it tight with the lsa......112-108. You will get all the useable tq you need all under the curve. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

03-17-2014, 01:15 AM	#2
B-_-RAD Banned Drives: ... Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ... Posts: 398	Night fury imo, the tq is better than just about all the others, and it makes ~480+. Also a great platform to add a centri blower to.

03-17-2014, 01:21 AM	#3
BigRed Drives: SS RS SIM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greenville, KY Posts: 201	Another Vote for the night Fury. I love the way my car feels now. Here is the dyno graph for mine plus a link to my build. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326533

03-17-2014, 02:26 AM	#7
BigRed Drives: SS RS SIM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greenville, KY Posts: 201	Here is without the ported heads and intake. 450RWTQ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=night+fury

03-17-2014, 02:33 AM	#8
B-_-RAD Banned Drives: ... Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ... Posts: 398	Even 450rwtq is strong for basically cam only, that would be 40rwtq gain fron where I was with intake and headers.

03-17-2014, 10:56 AM	#11
B-_-RAD Banned Drives: ... Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ... Posts: 398	Here is another one at ~460 tq no heads. The reason I went with the night fury is that the power comes on quickly and there isn't a huge loss in power/tq down low compared to other cams, yet it still produces above average numbers. You could also use a smaller cam from rick crawford and mill the heads, which would probably net similar gains.

03-17-2014, 05:41 PM	#14
Fred 6528 Drives: 2011 ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: va Posts: 983	This picture of dyno sheet shows the torgue of the Night Fury Cam with stock heads. The line went straight up until 4500 rpm then curved to 477.