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Doubleblank · 08-30-2012, 10:21 AM

Depends on how much you're going to track the car......and your budget. If you'll track the car regularly and want to run with the big dogs out there, then you're going to want to personally select all of your important pieces. I'm talking bigger wheels and tires, adjustable coilovers, adjustable ASB's, bushings, etc. So if you're going to do a custom setup eventually, go SS. If all you want is a track ready car to do a PDX ocasionally, the 1LE is the cheapest way to go.

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 08-30-2012, 11:47 AM

I'm thinking a 1Le with Pedders

Rob@WretchedMS · 08-30-2012, 12:08 PM

Does the 1LE have a diff cooler, i think i missed that one

Beezwax · 08-30-2012, 12:20 PM

i guess all this hinders on how the car with be driven

Hotchkis · 08-30-2012, 12:48 PM

Your other option to get 1LE levels of handling for your SS would be to look at our 2010+ Camaro Race Pack Stage 3 Total Vehicle System (TVS). This kit includes Sport Coil Springs, Front Sway Bar, Adjustable Rear Sway Bar, Front and Rear Heavy Duty Adjustable End Links, Strut Tower Brace, and Chassis Brace. These parts are designed to compliment each other and give you a matched suspension setup that works right out of the box. And even better, all of this engineering is available for under $2500.

Check out what Autoblog and Road and Track have to say about how the handling of a Hotchkis-equipped Camaro compares to stock:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/12/h...r-than-before/

http://www.hotchkis.net/_uploaded_fi...5thgen_zz1.pdf

Beezwax · 08-30-2012, 02:29 PM

ERMEGHERD DO WANTS!!!

ChrisRav · 08-30-2012, 03:41 PM

Thanks a lot everybody! If it wasn't for the gears and wheels I think I would lean towards air or pedders, but 1LE sounds like a deal plus its under warranty. does anybody have pictures of an 1LE interior? Is it the same as a zl1? I really do like the interior of the zl1

ackeight · 08-30-2012, 04:32 PM

If I was in your position I'd get the 1LE. Then eventually get some coilovers if you can. For me I'm making my own track package car with an SS since I jumped the gun too early and got a new 2010

toehead93 · 08-31-2012, 08:02 PM

The 1LE is a lot more than suspension.

You get the close ratio mm6, 3.91 gear, extra fuel pickups, stronger axles and hubs, trans cooler, electric steering, shifter, and more. If you add everything up it is impossible to get everything for anywhere close to $3500. I am actually thinking about selling my SS for a 1LE. Look at it this way, with the 1LE you are paying $3,500 for the ZL1 wheels and tires, all the other options are free.

Leb SS2/RS · 08-31-2012, 09:05 PM

Would you have ground clearance issues with the Hotchkis stage 3 race package ?
I am interested in the kit, but I don't want to have ground clearence issue due to bad roads where I live, and I will be running coil overs so the car will be pretty low....

Rob@WretchedMS · 08-31-2012, 09:13 PM

That kit is an FE3 kit, not an FE4+

JusticePete · 08-31-2012, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRav

I will hopefully be getting a 2013 2SS/RS m6 camaro soon. I personally love the look of airlift on the 5th gen camaros but would really enjoy a car that handles well.

My question would be could a pedderized or bagged SS be able to compete with a 1LE around the track? It would be a daily driver so I would perfer as smooth of a ride as possible but yet be able to take a turn fast without fear of loosing control. What do you think would be the best way to go? I dont know much about suspension but for the money is the 1LE package worth it when you can get air or pedders for around the same cost plus the killer looks?

Thanks in Advance!

Bury it. We ran the PUSA Camaro at Gingerman years ago. Some refer to it as an obscure track. It isn't. It gets a lot of use from Detroit based automobile companies and was the choice of the Camaro TEAM for media hot laps with the 1LE. Since the fall of 2009 there hasn't been a single Camaro to run faster at Gingerman than the PUSA Camaro. Not one. We are running the Pro-Tourcing / OPTIMA Challenge events with the Lingenfelter L/28 and Raymond's Performance Camaro. We were 1 second slower than Lou Gilloti's highly modified ZR1 at Eagles Canyon. We put down the fastest lap of the day at Road America besting a well driven $450,000 Porsche that spent all day chasing the L/28. At Gingerman we we had the fastest AC and and were behind a killer race car like vette on the road course.

A 1LE is a great version of the SS that will be much better Pedderised. You have a money back guarantee on it.

ChrisRav · 09-01-2012, 02:11 PM

That sounds quite exspensive. Now being able to customize the 2013 online it would be roughly the same price for a 1SS/RS/1LE as a 2SS/RS. I would hate to loose the leather and HUD tho

, I think overall the 1LE would be a lot smarter choice considering if I really want leather or HUD I could always add later.

JusticePete · 09-01-2012, 02:16 PM

Flawless operation and control are never expensive. They are PRICELESS. Anyone can make a Vette fast. Beating a modified Vette with a Camaro is a statement. We do it all the time. I haven't spoken to a single Pedders client that had just run their fastest 1/4 mile or passed every car in their HPDE that thought their Pedders parts were expensive. Not one.

08-30-2012, 10:21 AM	#15
Doubleblank Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2014 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 414	Depends on how much you're going to track the car......and your budget. If you'll track the car regularly and want to run with the big dogs out there, then you're going to want to personally select all of your important pieces. I'm talking bigger wheels and tires, adjustable coilovers, adjustable ASB's, bushings, etc. So if you're going to do a custom setup eventually, go SS. If all you want is a track ready car to do a PDX ocasionally, the 1LE is the cheapest way to go. __________________ ERL 500 ci Short Block, 2in ARH Headers, TSP LS7 Heads, LSXR/NW 102, Forgeline, MGW Shifter, StopTech BBK, Pfadt C/O's, Pfadt ASB's, etc, PowerFab Dynotune

08-30-2012, 12:20 PM	#18
Beezwax Drives: Public Transportation Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 145	i guess all this hinders on how the car with be driven __________________ "30 psi is like bangin a really hot chick with an STD... you want to hit it but are affraid of the consequences"

08-30-2012, 02:29 PM	#20
Beezwax Drives: Public Transportation Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 145	ERMEGHERD DO WANTS!!! __________________ "30 psi is like bangin a really hot chick with an STD... you want to hit it but are affraid of the consequences"

08-30-2012, 04:32 PM	#22
ackeight Drives: 10' 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rockwall, TX Posts: 1,389 View My Garage	If I was in your position I'd get the 1LE. Then eventually get some coilovers if you can. For me I'm making my own track package car with an SS since I jumped the gun too early and got a new 2010 __________________ ADM tuned 412HP/407RWTQ. Kooks 2" headers w/ cats, ADM race intake, Vmax TB, Pedders XA coilovers and ZL1 sways. 1le clone

08-31-2012, 08:02 PM	#23
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	The 1LE is a lot more than suspension. You get the close ratio mm6, 3.91 gear, extra fuel pickups, stronger axles and hubs, trans cooler, electric steering, shifter, and more. If you add everything up it is impossible to get everything for anywhere close to $3500. I am actually thinking about selling my SS for a 1LE. Look at it this way, with the 1LE you are paying $3,500 for the ZL1 wheels and tires, all the other options are free. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

08-30-2012, 11:47 AM	#16
Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	I'm thinking a 1Le with Pedders

08-30-2012, 12:08 PM	#17
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	Does the 1LE have a diff cooler, i think i missed that one

08-30-2012, 12:48 PM	#19
Hotchkis Drives: 1st through 5th gen Camaros Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sante Fe Springs, CA Posts: 458	Your other option to get 1LE levels of handling for your SS would be to look at our 2010+ Camaro Race Pack Stage 3 Total Vehicle System (TVS). This kit includes Sport Coil Springs, Front Sway Bar, Adjustable Rear Sway Bar, Front and Rear Heavy Duty Adjustable End Links, Strut Tower Brace, and Chassis Brace. These parts are designed to compliment each other and give you a matched suspension setup that works right out of the box. And even better, all of this engineering is available for under $2500. Check out what Autoblog and Road and Track have to say about how the handling of a Hotchkis-equipped Camaro compares to stock: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/12/h...r-than-before/ http://www.hotchkis.net/_uploaded_fi...5thgen_zz1.pdf

08-30-2012, 03:41 PM	#21
ChrisRav Drives: Dreaming Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 9	Thanks a lot everybody! If it wasn't for the gears and wheels I think I would lean towards air or pedders, but 1LE sounds like a deal plus its under warranty. does anybody have pictures of an 1LE interior? Is it the same as a zl1? I really do like the interior of the zl1

08-31-2012, 09:05 PM	#24
Leb SS2/RS Drives: 2011 Camaro SS2/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Beirut, Lebanon Posts: 92	Would you have ground clearance issues with the Hotchkis stage 3 race package ? I am interested in the kit, but I don't want to have ground clearence issue due to bad roads where I live, and I will be running coil overs so the car will be pretty low....

08-31-2012, 09:13 PM	#25
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	That kit is an FE3 kit, not an FE4+

09-01-2012, 02:11 PM	#27
ChrisRav Drives: Dreaming Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 9	That sounds quite exspensive. Now being able to customize the 2013 online it would be roughly the same price for a 1SS/RS/1LE as a 2SS/RS. I would hate to loose the leather and HUD tho , I think overall the 1LE would be a lot smarter choice considering if I really want leather or HUD I could always add later.

09-01-2012, 02:16 PM	#28
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Flawless operation and control are never expensive. They are PRICELESS. Anyone can make a Vette fast. Beating a modified Vette with a Camaro is a statement. We do it all the time. I haven't spoken to a single Pedders client that had just run their fastest 1/4 mile or passed every car in their HPDE that thought their Pedders parts were expensive. Not one.