10-23-2009, 06:26 PM | #71 | |
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If I could change the title of the thread...I would. I would say: UNLESS YOU RACE, MOD YOUR CAR FOR PERSONALIZATION NOT THE PERFORMANCE GAIN. That way It's sucks starting a thread where some people can't comprehend intent or read too much into things. Apparently some of us here have a lot of pent up issues and are on the defence and waiting to lash out. This is nuts.
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10-23-2009, 06:59 PM | #72 | |
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My friend, you are starting to sound obstinate, overly persistent and loud. According to accepted Internet protocol, when you type in uppercase (caps), it indicates that you are shouting and that's how you are now coming across. Calm down and don't get so easily offended. Maybe you aren't making your point clearly enough...or possibly you don't "get it", and maybe its a little of both. By the way, if I drag raced another car and beat him by about 6-8 car lengths in the 1320, would you say that I thoroughly thrashed him? Of course, you would. That's the difference the few tenths (that you shrugged off) would make at 110 mph going through the lights. Alfie
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10-23-2009, 07:28 PM | #73 | |
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Modifications are a personal choice and must meet each persons personal expectations and satisfy each his own curiosity, demands, likes, etc. What I got out of it is, Performance is not as important to you, as looks, so don't sweat the 2 hp. Also you believe 95% of the guys on here feel just like you do. I don't know about that LOL, I think guys hang around here to see how to, and what to do, to they're pride an joy, and what the results will be before laying down any cash. All In all Great discussion and I expect it started because of my thread on Cold Air Kit Testing. If I am wrong See Reason Above. Just a tid bit of recent info, I just finished an L99 car, Simple bolt ons gave it more than LS3 Power, 370 RWHP 387 RWTQ, Headers cat back, CAI and Tune, Pretty darn good gain for the dollars spent. Also this L99 car Just covered the quarter mile in 12.47 at 112 MPH today
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10-23-2009, 08:33 PM | #74 |
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Well, your RWTQ is more than a stock LS3. RWHP still just a bit shy.
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10-23-2009, 08:59 PM | #75 | |
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10-23-2009, 09:40 PM | #76 | |
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If you said 'adding only a cold air intake will not make a major difference in the performance'...I would agree. If you said 'adding only a cat back will not make a major difference in performance'...I would agree. But you suggested that achieving a noticeable difference would require 'major surgery'...which is a subjective definition. you may consider what I have done 'major'...I do not. You thread title was provocative...and by the first line of your post you clearly indicated that you were aware of that fact and that it was indeed intentional. Don't get your panties in a wad when you start getting the reaction that your were seeking.
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10-24-2009, 08:44 AM | #77 | |
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So Now we have LS3 Auto Combo
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10-24-2009, 09:42 AM | #78 | |
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10-24-2009, 09:31 PM | #80 | |
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10-24-2009, 09:58 PM | #81 |
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hmmm. as people have stated before in this thread. it's about total investment not oh this CAI only gives you X hp. well you don't even know if it gives you that unless you dyno it before and after install. chances are it didn't even increase it that much right away. you need supporting modifications to achieve the max increase possible. oh well do and believe what you want. maybe some day you'll understand.
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10-25-2009, 09:36 AM | #82 |
First off any " performance gain " be it 1hp or 200 is a " real gain ". Don't belittle people for not buying a supercharger or turbo, and if you noticed you went against your own opinion by making that comparison.
Some people like to mod thier cars plain and simple. Some like to change the exhaust note, some like nitrous, some like putting 20's on thier car to be gangsta ( thanks GM /sigh ). Personally I wouldn't want a sc or turbo, that screws my already piss poor gas mileage for my long trips. I do however like to let the engine breath better by changing the exhaust and intake some. To each thier own if you want to race serious do your thing, if ya want extra power but stay street legal do your thing, if ya want 22's and lambo doors with 200 extra pounds of stereo equipment do your thing. |
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10-26-2009, 02:57 PM | #83 |
I read most of the posts but I might have missed the point I'm about to make. If so, I apologize for the repeat.
In my case, the CAI/canned tune I use is not all about HP, but about throttle response. The pull-back in power as you approach the red-line is gone (torque management), the throttle is now (not when the Ford computor says), the red-line is moved up a couple of hundred RPM (don't have to upshift then downshift again on the short straights), the blip is right away on heel and toe. Not the weak and flabby blip one gets without the tune; usually requiring two or three stabs to obtain the needed RPM for the downshift. All in all it makes for a more enjoyable driving experience IMO. Well worth the cost, even if there is no added HP. During the winter the CAI/tune comes off in case warranty work is needed. Cheers. |
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10-26-2009, 06:36 PM | #84 |
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Ok i've read through the whole thing and it seems to me he has an anger towards the advertising of these small performance parts. In example they always have in BIG CAPITAL letters "ADDS 10 HP" etc.....(highlighting the performance gain) when realitically 10 hp is nothing to the common driver and would be un-noticealbe They sell these bolt on assesories making people believe that "Man that's going to make my car a butt load faster!!!" when realistically it won't even be noticable. So I think he's saying... don't fall into the hype of the advertising and buy these small HP parts with the mirrage that it's going to make you faster, you should by them because there cool and just that....That's my read of this thread. Thank you and good day sir!!!
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