ZL1 69 colors?????

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Obviously we (Camaro) do not want to agree to share all of the Impala colors - and of course, an Impala and an Equinox would not be real attractive in IOM or RY or SG.

I gotta disagree with you on that one.
I think IOM would look great on the Equinox (btw what is the plural version of Equinox?) and Impala.

[savage71ChevelleSS]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

We've had many conversations about color - more than I can count.......

The paint systems at Oshawa are 'shared' - meaning that we build Camaro/Impala/Regal/Equinox in the plant - and only so many paint 'lines' - -
so the discussion of color gets 'lively' to say the least.

Obviously we (Camaro) do not want to agree to share all of the Impala colors - and of course, an Impala and an Equinox would not be real attractive in IOM or RY or SG.

So - it's a challenge to choose colors that allow each vehicle line to have a nice complement of colors that match the car's character. Colors like White, Silver, Cyber Gray, and Black are the easy ones! Light gold on the Camaro, on the other hand? Not so much...........

And for the record - I love LeMans/Nassau/Mulsanne blue--to me, it represents some of the best times of the 60s at Chevrolet...........and I especially loved the Blue Bowtie that we placed in the center of the grille of most of our 1969 products............

unfortunately when we offer bright blue, it doesn't exactly fly off the shelf..........

What IS true: If we were to offer 25 colors - we still would not make everyone happy. (.........and that's why dealers such as Berger Chevrolet and Tom Henry Chevrolet will paint new Camaros any color you wish....)

Thanks for your insight, I appreciate your comments. Please please please bring back the blue bowtie like the 69's. The gold bowtie is fine on a truck or a tahoe, but not on a Camaro

[91Z28350]

How about you rotate the blues? IBM one year, medium blue metallic the next etc? Oh, and btw, I would rock that dark purple Camaro ZL1 all day long!

[OldJedi]

Scott, I thought convincing you of a lighter blue color would be the hard part. Glad to hear that you are are fond of the lighter blue colors. By the time the ZL1 is ready for production it will be close to two years since there was a lighter blue painted C5 Camaro. It would be nice to see a Marina Blue/LeMans blue come back to go along with the ZL1 nameplate from that era. It might not be the biggest selling color but since the Aqua Blue was removed there has been a lot of clamor on this forum for the return of a lighter blue color. Bringing back the ZL1 nameplate from the past also seems like the perfect time to bring back a matching lighter blue color from the same era. I hope you will throw your opinion into the Team Camaro mix and help bring back a lighter blue color for the ZL1.

[Shurenuff]

Jetstream blue or Stryker blue for the ZL1 would be nice. Stryker blue from Pontiac is one of the nicest medium blues I've seen.

Edit: Didn't read the OP's post too well. I'd have to say neither Jetstream or Stryker blue were available in 1969. Oops.

[Nine Ball]

Please get rid of the current tomato soup metallic orange-ish red, and offer 1969 Hugger Orange. That would easily be one of the most popular colors, and it is one of the biggest Camaro heritage colors around. I will buy a ZL1 if hugger orange is available. No question.

[Milk 1027]

Hugger orange is ugly.
Maybe a new orange that looks "hugger-like"
But hugger orange on any modern car would look horrendous.

[JUISSD]

They already make the best color, Summit White and IOM! Although I'm going to change the IOM lol.

[Nine Ball]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Hugger orange is ugly.
Maybe a new orange that looks "hugger-like"
But hugger orange on any modern car would look horrendous.

I don't know of any diehard Camaro guys that would say Hugger Orange is ugly. Maybe you are a Ford guy in disguise?

Plenty of "modern" cars come in a similar shade of Hugger Orange. SRT-8 Challenger, Porsche GT-3, and some others. If IOM looks good on a Camaro, then surely Hugger Orange will also look good - probably better. It can be a slight metallic, like the SRT8, but it just needs to be the right shade of orange. The current orange is too dark and red toned.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by radz28

The little insights on how things work always helps to shed light on many of the reasons why things go how they go. I'm sure you guys would LOVE to give each and every one of us what we want, but, as you just pointed out, it's just not practical. I think many are too quick to point to the past and think that it's just as easy now to offer what they did 40-years ago, when, in fact, it's not. I can't begin to comprehend everything that entails making cars, but I sure like seeing behind the curtain

Very good point and you are astute to understand that.

At the Chicago GTG, I talked about peoples' wants and needs. The problem is that each person feels slightly different........and so someone says "Well - you could give us that feature and it would only cost about 100 bux!...." And that's true - but it may be a feature that 70% of the buyers do not want - some of those 70% want THIS feature or THAT feature - and pretty soon, that $24,000 Camaro costs $27000.........

So - it's always a tough call to determine what gets put in a program and what does not..............

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I gotta disagree with you on that one.
I think IOM would look great on the Equinox (btw what is the plural version of Equinox?) and Impala.

Equini (I use that all the time...)

Just like

Travi......................


...................................and Malibi and Impali...............

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by savage71ChevelleSS

Thanks for your insight, I appreciate your comments. Please please please bring back the blue bowtie like the 69's. The gold bowtie is fine on a truck or a tahoe, but not on a Camaro

That subject is very near and dear to our friends in GM Design Studios.

I recall asking for the SS emblem on the centercaps of the 4th gen car -



............................and when I regained consciousness.....I realized I'd learned a lesson........


I watched in trepidation when someone asked for the SS emblem in the grille of the new car............





......that person is now well enough to sit up and take nourishment on his own...............

[radz28]

Originally Posted by savage71ChevelleSS

Thanks for your insight, I appreciate your comments. Please please please bring back the blue bowtie like the 69's. The gold bowtie is fine on a truck or a tahoe, but not on a Camaro

I ALWAYS forget about that! GREAT POINT!!! I'm a little "iffy" on the gold Bow Tie on CAMARO (and Corvette, for that matter), and would totally love a blue one! I remember them on Cavaliers from like a decade ago, and actually almost put one on my '02; I just never got around to it. Maybe the gold Bow Tie is an expression of quality or class or something; like there's an actual statement GM is making by the usage of that color I'd like to see a CAMARO crest return, too. I've always liked the 4th Gen crest, and though it's made by our friends to the North, I liked it had Old Glory's colors.

I have nothing but positive comments on the font and color of the ZL1's emblem though I wonder if there's a reason that the "1" is red on ZL1, and blue on ZR1... I think, because I'm a blue-person, I'd prefer a blue "1", but I think the red pops a little more. I'm not sure ZL1 necessarily needs more pop than it already has, but I like how it grabs the eye.

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Scott, I thought convincing you of a lighter blue color would be the hard part. Glad to hear that you are are fond of the lighter blue colors. By the time the ZL1 is ready for production it will be close to two years since there was a lighter blue painted C5 Camaro. It would be nice to see a Marina Blue/LeMans blue come back to go along with the ZL1 nameplate from that era. It might not be the biggest selling color but since the Aqua Blue was removed there has been a lot of clamor on this forum for the return of a lighter blue color. Bringing back the ZL1 nameplate from the past also seems like the perfect time to bring back a matching lighter blue color from the same era. I hope you will throw your opinion into the Team Camaro mix and help bring back a lighter blue color for the ZL1.

I fully support a good blue I've been planning on IBM, but I'd love something lighter - I really liked ABM in person, too. I hope another blue comes along that the consumer will support. There are some other great colors coming on-line, especially that black, but I'd just love a nice, rich blue

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Hugger orange is ugly.
Maybe a new orange that looks "hugger-like"
But hugger orange on any modern car would look horrendous.

I just don't think colors from back-in-the-day had much depth. If Hugger Orange was three-stage, or just had some more pearle or metal flake, I think it'd pop great. I have to agree, though, that a straight-up Hugger on a 5th Gen just wouldn't look too good, IMVHO. I fully support brining back some colors from the past though, because the hues were beautiful.

Originally Posted by fbodfather

That subject is very near and dear to our friends in GM Design Studios.

I recall asking for the SS emblem on the centercaps of the 4th gen car -



............................and when I regained consciousness.....I realized I'd learned a lesson........


I watched in trepidation when someone asked for the SS emblem in the grille of the new car............





......that person is now well enough to sit up and take nourishment on his own...............

I guess no one messes with the Design Studio, huh, lol.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Hugger orange is ugly.
Maybe a new orange that looks "hugger-like"
But hugger orange on any modern car would look horrendous.

I don't think so!