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Vette TPI · 04-05-2012, 12:19 AM

Will this be sufficient enough to hold my vehicle? I've thought and planned this out a thousand times. My design comes from others who have tried. There is this and this. I added extra diagonal bracing's and then triangular bracing on front, plus the ramps being on the back of the lift. Will this suffice and be safe enough for exhaust, oil/trans oil change? It should be 16" off the ground. I know many will not think this is safe, but it's honestly better than the above links.

P.S. there would be 280 square inches of contact patch to the 2x12's, with all the verticle and diagonal bracing.

sene · 04-05-2012, 12:33 AM

Only one way to find out...

SUX2BU · 04-05-2012, 01:18 AM

Looks good to me, but it seems like a lot of work compared to using a jack and 4 jack stands.

rolnslo · 04-05-2012, 09:39 AM

Honestly, I wouldn't do it. Why risk your life to save a few dollars?

I was going to suggest getting a KwikLift instead but it looks like they didn't survive the economic downturn and went out of business a couple of months ago. Too bad, since they actually had a decent alternative to a 2 or 4 post lift.

Synner · 04-05-2012, 10:54 AM

A 2x12 shouldn't be used for the vertical members, thats where the 4x4 or 6x6 should be used. A 2x12 isn't strong in the direction you were planning on using it. Lateral bracing can be made from 2x6, not 4x4. It should only be providing bracing in a single direction so square lumber isn't necessary if you design it properly.

Its tough to understand the drawing for what you're planning. Its possible to do this safely but I can't tell if your specific plans are. The fact that you're using incorrect dimensions for support pieces I'd say "contact a professional before proceeding."

Camarowguy · 04-05-2012, 11:04 AM

Your gonna use wood?????

Vette TPI · 04-05-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sene

Only one way to find out...

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Originally Posted by SUX2BU

Looks good to me, but it seems like a lot of work compared to using a jack and 4 jack stands.

I know this is wood but just seems better the weight more spread out instead contact patch to the ground vs Jack stands.

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Originally Posted by rolnslo

Honestly, I wouldn't do it. Why risk your life to save a few dollars?

I was going to suggest getting a KwikLift instead but it looks like they didn't survive the economic downturn and went out of business a couple of months ago. Too bad, since they actually had a decent alternative to a 2 or 4 post lift.

I really want one of those after seeing one! Thank you for your advice. Is there anything similar with only this height? I don't have a lot of money or space for something bigger.

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Originally Posted by Synner

A 2x12 shouldn't be used for the vertical members, thats where the 4x4 or 6x6 should be used. A 2x12 isn't strong in the direction you were planning on using it. Lateral bracing can be made from 2x6, not 4x4. It should only be providing bracing in a single direction so square lumber isn't necessary if you design it properly.

Its tough to understand the drawing for what you're planning. Its possible to do this safely but I can't tell if your specific plans are. The fact that you're using incorrect dimensions for support pieces I'd say "contact a professional before proceeding."

It's basically exactly the first mustang thread but with 4x4 s in each section diagonally. It's exactly why I came out here. To hopefully find something better or safer.

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Your gonna use wood?????

haha yeah. I can't weld at all or find something of significant other.

rolnslo · 04-05-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vette TPI

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I really want one of those after seeing one! Thank you for your advice. Is there anything similar with only this height? I don't have a lot of money or space for something bigger...

Used Kwiklifts pop up from time to time on craigslist and car forum classifieds (check Corvette forums, they tend to like them). As far as alternatives, I'm sure that there is something similar out there, just haven't seen or heard of one yet.

Vette TPI · 04-05-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rolnslo

Used Kwiklifts pop up from time to time on craigslist and car forum classifieds (check Corvette forums, they tend to like them). As far as alternatives, I'm sure that there is something similar out there, just haven't seen or heard of one yet.

I'll have to look for them! I'm in need of one!

justa25thTA · 04-05-2012, 03:32 PM

instead of all that fancy stuff, you could just lay out some long pieces of 2x12's stacked on top of each other for the whole thing. Not fancy and definately not light, but would be much stronger and safer ( and I bet not too expensive).

Vette TPI · 04-05-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by justa25thTA

instead of all that fancy stuff, you could just lay out some long pieces of 2x12's stacked on top of each other for the whole thing. Not fancy and definately not light, but would be much stronger and safer ( and I bet not too expensive).

oh #*@$

probably cost the same as buying all that wood too. So need to buy sixteen 2x12 boards.. Thanks

Synner · 04-05-2012, 04:06 PM

http://www.derekweaver.com/update/W-...uct.aspx?id=61

I clicked on the link, the ramp portion is a death trap with no lateral bracing. They were using the plywood as lateral bracing where the car is. A boxed 2x12 frame would be way safer.

knitetrain05 · 04-06-2012, 07:32 AM

Thats not at all a good idea.You better think out what your really doing here. Really think.

motorhead · 04-06-2012, 07:38 AM

So how are you going to get it up onto that truss system?

04-05-2012, 12:19 AM	#1
Vette TPI Drives: 1987 Corvette TPI Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Littleton Posts: 549	How strong will this hold? Will this be sufficient enough to hold my vehicle? I've thought and planned this out a thousand times. My design comes from others who have tried. There is this and this. I added extra diagonal bracing's and then triangular bracing on front, plus the ramps being on the back of the lift. Will this suffice and be safe enough for exhaust, oil/trans oil change? It should be 16" off the ground. I know many will not think this is safe, but it's honestly better than the above links. P.S. there would be 280 square inches of contact patch to the 2x12's, with all the verticle and diagonal bracing. Attached Images __________________

04-05-2012, 01:18 AM	#3
SUX2BU Quit being a pu$$y Drives: FAST Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sachse TX (DFW) Posts: 5,825 View My Garage	Looks good to me, but it seems like a lot of work compared to using a jack and 4 jack stands. __________________ <----- Click HERE to see ALL of my mods/write ups

04-05-2012, 09:39 AM	#4
rolnslo Rolling along... Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,380 View My Garage	Honestly, I wouldn't do it. Why risk your life to save a few dollars? I was going to suggest getting a KwikLift instead but it looks like they didn't survive the economic downturn and went out of business a couple of months ago. Too bad, since they actually had a decent alternative to a 2 or 4 post lift. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Synergy Green A6

04-05-2012, 11:04 AM	#6
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Your gonna use wood????? __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

04-05-2012, 03:32 PM	#10
justa25thTA Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,632	instead of all that fancy stuff, you could just lay out some long pieces of 2x12's stacked on top of each other for the whole thing. Not fancy and definately not light, but would be much stronger and safer ( and I bet not too expensive). __________________ Yeah, I'll get around to it...

04-05-2012, 12:33 AM	#2
sene Drives: 2011 Summit White 2LS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 918	Only one way to find out...

04-05-2012, 10:54 AM	#5
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	A 2x12 shouldn't be used for the vertical members, thats where the 4x4 or 6x6 should be used. A 2x12 isn't strong in the direction you were planning on using it. Lateral bracing can be made from 2x6, not 4x4. It should only be providing bracing in a single direction so square lumber isn't necessary if you design it properly. Its tough to understand the drawing for what you're planning. Its possible to do this safely but I can't tell if your specific plans are. The fact that you're using incorrect dimensions for support pieces I'd say "contact a professional before proceeding."

04-05-2012, 04:06 PM	#12
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	http://www.derekweaver.com/update/W-...uct.aspx?id=61 I clicked on the link, the ramp portion is a death trap with no lateral bracing. They were using the plywood as lateral bracing where the car is. A boxed 2x12 frame would be way safer.

04-06-2012, 07:32 AM	#13
knitetrain05 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Anniversary Edi Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 523 View My Garage	Thats not at all a good idea.You better think out what your really doing here. Really think.

04-06-2012, 07:38 AM	#14
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	So how are you going to get it up onto that truss system?

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