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Old 10-01-2010, 05:35 AM   #183
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Not getting involved in this, but the only thing I'll say is that when you mention sales statistics, numbers, etc., you need to cite references and sources. That's the honest thing to do. Just provide a link.
No, I do not. The numbers are facts. You should be discussing the facts, not the easily accessible and obvious source where they came from.

If you're smart enough to login to an internet message forum, you should be able to use a search engine. If this is beyond your current ability then it will be a great learning experience.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:22 AM   #184
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No, I do not. The numbers are facts. You should be discussing the facts, not the easily accessible and obvious source where they came from.

If you're smart enough to login to an internet message forum, you should be able to use a search engine. If this is beyond your current ability then it will be a great learning experience.
You're an idiot.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:51 AM   #185
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http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/V10.html

was hoping it was going to be like the concept not comp only. starting at 85k WOW.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:25 PM   #186
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http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/V10.html

was hoping it was going to be like the concept not comp only. starting at 85k WOW.
It is a NHRA class dragster.. eh
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:16 PM   #187
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http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/V10.html

was hoping it was going to be like the concept not comp only. starting at 85k WOW.
Not street legal.
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:30 PM   #188
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False. No challenger will get any v10.
What was that again? Im sorry I must have misread that, please say it again.....No really, come on, Oh I will wait till you get your foot out of your mouth.....
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:52 PM   #189
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http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/V10.html

was hoping it was going to be like the concept not comp only. starting at 85k WOW.
very cool, much like Ford's Cobra Jet track pack. Expensive, but nice if you are into drag racing. Since it appears Chrysler is willing to invest money in a non-street application which has limited use,interest, or purpose beyond a drag strip, I would say it is not impossible to see a street Challenger with a V10 released.
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:52 PM   #190
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What was that again? Im sorry I must have misread that, please say it again.....No really, come on, Oh I will wait till you get your foot out of your mouth.....
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I'm saying that situation is impossible. Dodge will not product a street legal V10 powered Challenger in the forseeable future.
I'll continue to say it.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:19 PM   #191
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I gave you facts. You refuse to verify them yourself. That is lazy behavior.
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You did give us real numbers. Where you got them from doesn't mean anything. You are more than capable finding more meaningful numbers just like I did. Corvette sales are at their lowest point since 1961. Considering how many more people we have in this country now than in 1961, sales right now are truly the worst ever.

What is more interesting into specific Corvette sales is the # of Z06 sales. Only 518 Z06's were produced in 2010 with ~100 still sitting on dealership lots.

This information can be used to argue that the 'middle-upper' income level people the Z06 is targeted at no longer exist or they are holding onto their money because they have no confidence in an economic rebound any time soon.
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You can do yearly with a simple google search.

2007 CORVETTE production and # sold: 40,561 produced, 40,561 sold
2010 CORVETTE production and # sold: 12,194, ~9,883 sold so far, ~2,311 left on lots today

You do the math.
Annual Corvette Sales

2005: 32,489
2006: 36,518
2007: 33,685
2008: 26,971
2009: 13,934
2010 (YTD): 9,798 with an extrapolated rate of : 13,064.

Decline relative to:

2005: 60%
2006: 64%
2007: 61%
2008: 52%
2009: 6%

You cannot even present your facts correctly. So get off your high horse.

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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010307.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010307.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010308.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...261exv99w1.htm
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...538/dex991.htm
http://media.gm.com/content/Pages/ne...ber%202010.pdf

Just proving a point... you are about as reliable as a tabloid newspaper.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:20 PM   #192
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I'll continue to say it.
You will continue being wrong.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:51 PM   #193
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Annual Corvette Sales

2005: 32,489
2006: 36,518
2007: 33,685
2008: 26,971
2009: 13,934
2010 (YTD): 9,798 with an extrapolated rate of : 13,064.

Decline relative to:

2005: 60%
2006: 64%
2007: 61%
2008: 52%
2009: 6%

You cannot even present your facts correctly. So get off your high horse.

Source:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010307.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010307.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ales010308.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...261exv99w1.htm
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...538/dex991.htm
http://media.gm.com/content/Pages/ne...ber%202010.pdf

Just proving a point... you are about as reliable as a tabloid newspaper.
No. My numbers for total Corvettes produced is correct. Your numbers are wrong.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:55 PM   #194
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You will continue being wrong.
I think this one off, non street legal race only V10 Challenger strengthens my argument. Look at the extensive modifications they had to do to fit the V10 in mean that this will not be produced on an assembly line. Most likely a 'body in white' will be shipped to another location and modified for all the Drag Pak specific parts.

My whole argument of this entire thread: It is impossible for Dodge to produce a street legal V10 Challenger.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:56 PM   #195
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No. My numbers for total Corvettes produced is correct. Your numbers are wrong.
So you are calling GM's own numbers wrong?
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:58 PM   #196
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So you are calling GM's own numbers wrong?
You link to documents about Corvette's United States sales, not sales or cars produced overall.
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