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traildevil · 07-07-2013, 05:34 PM

Just out of curiousity, I know its really cheap and maybe degrading to the vehicle, however what would happen if I cut the OEM filter box off right after the sensor and attached a K&N cone filter like a CAI would have? any benefits? or?

Pitboss · 07-07-2013, 05:56 PM

First thought that comes to mind, that, without heat shielding or box, the engine would be taking in the heated air around the engine. Kinda defeating the whole purpose of a 'cold' air intake.

steveo9043 · 07-07-2013, 06:06 PM

There are a few people who have modified the stock intake to accept a cone filter. Some even have gone as far as building there own box to help insulate.

RolltideSS · 07-07-2013, 06:31 PM

You would also still have the resonator boxes that would impede air and hurt performance I believe.

DARK AGE 53 · 07-07-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Comrando

K&N has a filter to fit the stock air box.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=33-2434

Bought it for $43.83 from Amazon.

td195f · 07-07-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RolltideSS

You would also still have the resonator boxes that would impede air and hurt performance I believe.

I was at Watkins Glen last weekend and got a good look at the Stevenson and CKS Autosport GS Camaros that run in the Continental Tires Series. When they opened the hood for me to get a look, all three cars were running the stock airbox and inlet tube to the throttle body including the resonator boxes. I know there's a lot of hype about adding a cold air intake, but I'm looking at this as save your money. If it's good enough for the GS Camaros and you're not concerned about the cooler appearance of an aftermarket CAI stick with the stock airbox and get a permanent element filter to put in the stock box.

Apex Motorsports · 07-07-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by traildevil

Just out of curiousity, I know its really cheap and maybe degrading to the vehicle, however what would happen if I cut the OEM filter box off right after the sensor and attached a K&N cone filter like a CAI would have? any benefits? or?

You would be sucking in a lot of hot air from the engine bay. I am going to go out on a limb and say that you would lose power compared to stock.

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Originally Posted by td195f

I was at Watkins Glen last weekend and got a good look at the Stevenson and CKS Autosport GS Camaros that run in the Continental Tires Series. When they opened the hood for me to get a look, all three cars were running the stock airbox and inlet tube to the throttle body including the resonator boxes. I know there's a lot of hype about adding a cold air intake, but I'm looking at this as save your money. If it's good enough for the GS Camaros and you're not concerned about the cooler appearance of an aftermarket CAI stick with the stock airbox and get a permanent element filter to put in the stock box.

We tend to think of race cars as running whatever is the latest and greatest in performance, and in many respects this is true, but all racing series have certain regulations that must be following. Induction is often one of the most strictly regulated parts on the engine in order to limit how much power certain vehicles make. I wouldn't draw to hasty of a conclusion without looking through the regs first. I can promise you that they aren't running the stock tube and air box because they couldn't find something better.

DARK AGE 53 · 07-07-2013, 07:05 PM

Does anyone make a direct replacement silicone hose to replace the stock plastic tube?

Glen e · 07-07-2013, 07:10 PM

If to do something right like a roto fab or CAI was $1000 and required me to find a tech and pay him 300 to install it, I might be cobbling on a conical or something too. But the CAI is like $400 and installs with hand tools in an hour by anyone. When I spend 40K or so on a car, I can find 1% of that number to make the engine compartment work and look good:

Rocky1974 · 07-08-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by td195f

I was at Watkins Glen last weekend and got a good look at the Stevenson and CKS Autosport GS Camaros that run in the Continental Tires Series. When they opened the hood for me to get a look, all three cars were running the stock airbox and inlet tube to the throttle body including the resonator boxes. I know there's a lot of hype about adding a cold air intake, but I'm looking at this as save your money. If it's good enough for the GS Camaros and you're not concerned about the cooler appearance of an aftermarket CAI stick with the stock airbox and get a permanent element filter to put in the stock box.

I'll bet that they are not running the stock intake because they want to, I'll bet that they have to. Dyno tests have proven that a CAI is worth about 15 horsepower. Most racers would kill for 15 horsepower.

2012-1822 · 07-08-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Comrando

K&N has a filter to fit the stock air box.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=33-2434

Another that Jac-Fab sells:
http://jacfab.com/products/camaro-pr...rop-in-filter/

That's what I was going to say

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Originally Posted by td195f

I was at Watkins Glen last weekend...
stock airbox...

If it's good enough for the GS Camaros and you're not concerned about the cooler appearance of an aftermarket CAI stick with the stock airbox and get a permanent element filter to put in the stock box.

I don't know about other motors, but there are repeated dyno pulls showing the difference cold air intake makes on the ZL1.

DRKS1D3 · 07-08-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

If to do something right like a roto fab or CAI was $1000 and required me to find a tech and pay him 300 to install it, I might be cobbling on a conical or something too. But the CAI is like $400 and installs with hand tools in an hour by anyone. When I spend 40K or so on a car, I can find 1% of that number to make the engine compartment work and look good:

This! Why spend your hard-earned cash on a great car, only to hack and cut up something to try and save some money? Buy a cold air intake and don't look back.

San2cci · 07-08-2013, 12:06 PM

You can find a used K&N CAI for cheap. Also, I know my local pep boys sells the K&N Cold air intake for the SS and Its pretty cheap.

Don't fabricate your stock box. It will look ridiculous. Save up and buy a used real CAI.

You are even better off buying a cheap one like this off e-bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-RED-2010-2...78c0f3&vxp=mtr

harrycamaro · 07-08-2013, 12:23 PM

Lookup the member bad70supreme. I think that's correct. He made his own cold air Intake from a stock one.
Or look at this thread by him
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157335

I'm also working on my own. There's a thread in the llt bolt on section

07-07-2013, 05:34 PM	#1
traildevil Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Northern New York Posts: 207	stock air intake question Just out of curiousity, I know its really cheap and maybe degrading to the vehicle, however what would happen if I cut the OEM filter box off right after the sensor and attached a K&N cone filter like a CAI would have? any benefits? or?

07-07-2013, 05:56 PM	#2
Pitboss Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 113	First thought that comes to mind, that, without heat shielding or box, the engine would be taking in the heated air around the engine. Kinda defeating the whole purpose of a 'cold' air intake. __________________

07-07-2013, 06:06 PM	#3
steveo9043 Drives: 2012 45th AE 2SS Coupe Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 1,125	There are a few people who have modified the stock intake to accept a cone filter. Some even have gone as far as building there own box to help insulate. __________________ 2012 45th L99 SS-Cold air inductions CAI-Dynatech LT's-Solo mach XL catback 333hp/341tq (before LT's)

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DARK AGE 53 Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mi./Al. Posts: 829	Does anyone make a direct replacement silicone hose to replace the stock plastic tube? __________________ POW/MIA - YOU ARE LOST BUT NOT FORGOTTEN IN SOUTHEAST ASIA

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Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	If to do something right like a roto fab or CAI was $1000 and required me to find a tech and pay him 300 to install it, I might be cobbling on a conical or something too. But the CAI is like $400 and installs with hand tools in an hour by anyone. When I spend 40K or so on a car, I can find 1% of that number to make the engine compartment work and look good: __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

07-07-2013, 06:31 PM	#4
RolltideSS Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 1,069 View My Garage	You would also still have the resonator boxes that would impede air and hurt performance I believe.

07-08-2013, 12:06 PM	#13
San2cci Drives: 2013 silver ice metallic ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Camden County, NJ Posts: 730 View My Garage	You can find a used K&N CAI for cheap. Also, I know my local pep boys sells the K&N Cold air intake for the SS and Its pretty cheap. Don't fabricate your stock box. It will look ridiculous. Save up and buy a used real CAI. You are even better off buying a cheap one like this off e-bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-RED-2010-2...78c0f3&vxp=mtr

07-08-2013, 12:23 PM	#14
harrycamaro Drives: 2010 camaro lt w/ chrome 20's Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston/DFW Posts: 324	Lookup the member bad70supreme. I think that's correct. He made his own cold air Intake from a stock one. Or look at this thread by him http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157335 I'm also working on my own. There's a thread in the llt bolt on section