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I'd love a track pack like option for the SS. Maybe our Mustang guys can answer this? Is a GT without the track pack significantly worse than with?
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Nice article. Sounded like those guys had fun.
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Don't forget the GT500 weighs 100lbs more than the Camaro, and 400lbs more than the GT. Weight appears to be the thing that has to give in order to put that much affordable power into these cars. From what the aftermarket guys are saying, the understeer appears to be fairly easy to solve. Last edited by 2010-1SS-IBM; 08-19-2009 at 01:45 PM. Reason: Spelling |
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The GT500 is not a good proxy for the '11 GT. The Shelby GT500 has an iron block to support ~1000HP at a moderate cost, which adds 100+ lbs. It also has additional weight from the supercharger, intercooler, and associated plumbing (100+ lbs). Lastly, it comes with heavy duty goodies to support crazy power, including upgraded brakes, suspension, and 9.5 in rims all around (~100 lbs).
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This test falls right in line with all of the other tests we've seen when these two cars are compared. The Track Pack Mustang handles very well and seems to be easier to drive fast but doesn't have the power to take advantage of the SS's understeer issues and is further exposed in a straight line. In the end it's good old preference as both cars will dig into your wallet about the same amount.
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Agree that better suspension and brakes are both needed, and will add more weight. I also get the sense that Ford may be positioning the Mustang as more of a sports car (3500lbs and nimble) than a grand touring car (4000lbs and comfortable), so they may have some tricks up their sleeves if this is truly their strategy.
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Great article. Seams like the cars are evenly matched, each with their own particular advantages.
To those of you who argue if Ford does this (more HP) or Chevy does that (better handling) and thus their car is better need to remember that the two companies could certainly and easily add it but it costs the buyer money. The main thing is car sales and profit. Both companies made great cars for the money and I am happy for that. Wouldn't be fun if one car was clearly better than the other. The driver will most likely make the difference. For those with deep pockets there is the aftermarket. |
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To say the SS wasn't intended to be a great gt car is silly. Of course it was. They just had an overweight structure to deal with.
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I think the SS clearly is a great GT car. At some point though you have to decide how edgy customers want their handling to be. When they started this project they still had the Solstice GXP and the Vette (of course) for people who really wanted to tear up canyons- so I think dialed down the suspension a little more for cruisers. I think that was a good choice and you can't make the car all things to all people.
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Would a G8 GT/GTP out-handle a Camaro SS? Do they get the same understeer scorn?
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