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jbrown13 · 11-22-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk

As I probably said before in this thread. I've seen 10 failed cams so far now, GM, comp, crane, cam motion. All had chewed lobes.

Common with all motors were the oil being used. mobile 5w-30 or cheap Walmart special oil.
Have built countless cam cars over the 16 years. We have always used mobile 1 0w-40 for the higher zinc. None of them have had failures. So, I still point at the oil. I know lots of people run the 5-30 with no issues, that's just what I've narrowed it down to.

My failure occurred with 5 - W30 Amsoil.

WHAMMO · 11-24-2016, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrown13

My failure occurred with 5 - W30 Amsoil.

Which AMoils? Signature series and OE oils series do not have the extra zinc. Id like to know since I rarely hear failures with AMoils. Even when running the perfect oil, it doesnt void all risk..

jbrown13 · 11-24-2016, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Which AMoils? Signature series and OE oils series do not have the extra zinc. Id like to know since I rarely hear failures with AMoils. Even when running the perfect oil, it doesnt void all risk..

XL series.

i2disturbedSS · 11-24-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

....yes, like a dog chasing a tail....

Let me fill you in on a lil' secret observation.....

...most on here are overcamming...ahem...cough cough

so don't sweat it, and do it right.

Really now, how so? - examples.

I'll read this thread from the beginning for more info in case its in here.

CFD · 11-24-2016, 05:09 PM

Would this be considered "over camming ", if so, why?

Camaro Dude · 11-27-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrown13

XL series.

XL: Run_of_the_mill Group III base stocks, API approved, to compete with the rest of the off_the_shelf Group3'ers out there

Sure, great oil for any daily driver, but for a performance car with a cam, running at least 50wheel over stock and track driven.....hmmmmm, you have much stouter choices out there, even from Amsoil themselves.

Camaro Dude · 11-27-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by i2disturbedSS

Really now, how so? - examples.

I'll read this thread from the beginning for more info in case its in here.

No, it's more like try reading this forum from the beginning like I have, it's a hoot!

Thought I'd come and take a break in here. Reading 3 days worth of Podesta emails, and some other Wikileaks related material is quite

, this place is refreshing

.

Camaro Dude · 11-27-2016, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFD

Would this be considered "over camming ", if so, why?

You need to specify the rest of the supporting mods for a proper assessment. Application of use, for the end user as well.

WHAMMO · 11-27-2016, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrown13

XL series.

It is a good oil, but it doesnt have anymore Zinc than other regular oils like standard Mobil one and other regular off the shelf oil.

DOC52 · 11-28-2016, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

It is a good oil, but it doesnt have anymore Zinc than other regular oils like standard Mobil one and other regular off the shelf oil.

Run the 10w30 Z-Rod and love it.

Bretts · 03-04-2018, 07:02 PM

stock cam
failure at 10k on new warranty now
mobil 5-30
going to a btr stage 3 with reccommended BTR upgrades trunnions springs and pushrods 3 bolt upgrade and a tensioner will track car after 5000 miles
oil upgrade and break in oil is what I have gleaned from this scary thread

racesloth · 05-28-2018, 11:41 AM

This VSRP II cam was installed in July 2013. It now has right about 23,000 miles on it.

Cam:

racesloth · 05-28-2018, 11:48 AM

Cam still in use: No
Cam type/brand: COMP
Cam Specs: 227/235 .613/.620 115
Cam miles: 23K
Forced induction: NO
Power level: About 460rwhp/460tq
Oil type: mobile 1 5w-30 or Royal Purple 5W-30
Oil Pump: Melling 10296
Date of cam purchase: July 2013
Valve train upgrades: BTR .660 springs and hardened pushrods stocktrunions
Bottom end upgrades: SBE

Glad I am changing out cam while going to FI. Two broken pushrod cups and damage to oil pump gerotor - although oil pressure was fine before teardown.

Lifters

LS3SSSuperSport · 10-26-2021, 12:28 PM

Probably half the people here have sold there Camaro SS, but for the die hards. This what I know about cam failures.

8620 is the ideal core to get a grind on.

Lifters play a big role in how long a cam lasts.

More important than that IS NEW LIFTER trays!!!! If your camming a 50000mile LS3 and your not changing lifter trays or lifters your screwed. Lifter trays wear out, allowing the lifter to rotate, causing premature wear on the cam. So change them. There only good for max 70 000miles.

I put new heads on and went to Johnson Lifters with new GM trays. Cam looked good, nothing crazy, but I know I have to change everything come 20000km on cam and lifters. Just the price to pay to keep things safe. Cam has 15000km and is going strong.

Oh and change your oil, max oil interval for my Camaro SS heads cam is max 3000KM, I'm not kidding!!! Good oil is cheap. Black oil will wear your engine out.

https://youtu.be/eeb-9zksOeQ

11-24-2016, 05:09 PM	#215
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	Would this be considered "over camming ", if so, why? Attached Images

03-04-2018, 07:02 PM	#221
Bretts SS Drives: 2015 2ss rs Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Alberta Posts: 911 View My Garage	stock cam failure at 10k on new warranty now mobil 5-30 going to a btr stage 3 with reccommended BTR upgrades trunnions springs and pushrods 3 bolt upgrade and a tensioner will track car after 5000 miles oil upgrade and break in oil is what I have gleaned from this scary thread __________________ CCW sp16a track set, BTR stage 3 cam and kooks longtubes with high flow catsLocks@7.5 degrees castor and radius arm inserts, Ride Tech 2coilovers JDP upper control arm bushings BMR lower knuckle bushing Bo White throttle body3.91 gears Spohn del-sphere toe link and trailing arms Prothane subframe bushings

05-28-2018, 11:41 AM	#222
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	Vengeance Comp Cam wear This VSRP II cam was installed in July 2013. It now has right about 23,000 miles on it. Cam: Attached Images __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

05-28-2018, 11:48 AM	#223
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	Cam still in use: No Cam type/brand: COMP Cam Specs: 227/235 .613/.620 115 Cam miles: 23K Forced induction: NO Power level: About 460rwhp/460tq Oil type: mobile 1 5w-30 or Royal Purple 5W-30 Oil Pump: Melling 10296 Date of cam purchase: July 2013 Valve train upgrades: BTR .660 springs and hardened pushrods stocktrunions Bottom end upgrades: SBE Glad I am changing out cam while going to FI. Two broken pushrod cups and damage to oil pump gerotor - although oil pressure was fine before teardown. Lifters Attached Images __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

10-26-2021, 12:28 PM	#224
LS3SSSuperSport Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: CANADA Posts: 12	Probably half the people here have sold there Camaro SS, but for the die hards. This what I know about cam failures. 8620 is the ideal core to get a grind on. Lifters play a big role in how long a cam lasts. More important than that IS NEW LIFTER trays!!!! If your camming a 50000mile LS3 and your not changing lifter trays or lifters your screwed. Lifter trays wear out, allowing the lifter to rotate, causing premature wear on the cam. So change them. There only good for max 70 000miles. I put new heads on and went to Johnson Lifters with new GM trays. Cam looked good, nothing crazy, but I know I have to change everything come 20000km on cam and lifters. Just the price to pay to keep things safe. Cam has 15000km and is going strong. Oh and change your oil, max oil interval for my Camaro SS heads cam is max 3000KM, I'm not kidding!!! Good oil is cheap. Black oil will wear your engine out. https://youtu.be/eeb-9zksOeQ