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devildoc · 12-02-2011, 06:11 PM

Damn dude sorry to hear about it but I am glad you got a great dealer that is willing to work with the mods already added. Don't know what to think about that though, because I always changed my oil every 5k miles or so. It would be dark but I always thought that was due to the trips to the drag strip.

CiscoBee · 12-02-2011, 07:05 PM

Sorry to hear about the breakdown Blade but at least it seems like it will be repaired.
Good luck with it!!!

Beauwulf · 12-02-2011, 07:30 PM

This is starting to sound like the main bearings are spinning. They have holes in them to allow oil into the area between the crank journal and the bearing surface from the oil passage drilled into the crank journal. When they spin in the block, the oil hole gets more and more closed off to that bearing. If it spins around enough, the hole gets completely closed off and, with no lubrication, it will seize!

There are little tabs on each bearing that are supposed to hold the bearing in place but, I have seen many plain bearing motors spin the bearings due to these tabs failing.

Check this out... in the first photo, you can see the little tabs on the edges on the bearings...

http://www.engineparts.com/publications/CL77-3-402.pdf

VR Baron · 12-02-2011, 07:45 PM

Sorry to hear and Glad they are taking care of you. I was watching my oil also. synthetic in mine and changing about 5000 miles and by 17000 was using about 1/2-3/4 of a qt.I hear these v6's use more the more you rev it high but sounds like something else caused it.

ChadG · 12-02-2011, 09:25 PM

Yeah I can't say this doesn't freak me out, I use Mobil 1 and change every 3k miles just because I'm OCD.

BaylorCamaro · 12-02-2011, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauwulf

This is starting to sound like the main bearings are spinning. They have holes in them to allow oil into the area between the crank journal and the bearing surface from the oil passage drilled into the crank journal. When they spin in the block, the oil hole gets more and more closed off to that bearing. If it spins around enough, the hole gets completely closed off and, with no lubrication, it will seize!

There are little tabs on each bearing that are supposed to hold the bearing in place but, I have seen many plain bearing motors spin the bearings due to these tabs failing.

Check this out... in the first photo, you can see the little tabs on the edges on the bearings...

http://www.engineparts.com/publications/CL77-3-402.pdf

Oh boy...

67 GTO · 12-02-2011, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Oh boy...

I hear ya and I'm headed to the track in the morning.

10RsCamaro · 12-02-2011, 10:58 PM

Good to hear that it all worked out in the end!

YOUNGnRECKLESS · 12-02-2011, 11:01 PM

glad to hear all went well and that they are fixing it for you

BaylorCamaro · 12-03-2011, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67 GTO

Shouldn't have said that

SIXJAK · 12-03-2011, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade

What tune?

Exactly. There is no tune. Well maybe we'll get to find out a little more from the tear down. My dealer didn't even mess around with a tear down, just ordered a new motor and that was that. And wow our cars are about the same age. Good luck hope everything works out.

I don't think my 2nd motor is quite as strong as my 1st though. My friend drove it who's about the best I've seen at laying down impeccable 60's and concurs. Of course my windows based laptop has been with the geek squad for weeks now and my motor is without something at the moment too.

Also just waiting for it to break in too before hmmhmm.

SIXJAK · 12-03-2011, 03:18 AM

After you get your car back, it would be cool to know how Friday went. Would love to know who got spanked by the brick too LOL.

scrming · 12-03-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SIXJAK

After you get your car back, it would be cool to know how Friday went. Would love to know who got spanked by the brick too LOL.

EVERYBODY!!! LOL!

Ok... I know ROD1 ran a 13.4 vs my 13.6 but I treed him and went through the traps first! He is the only one I was able to actually line up against... Just got to crowded to try and get lined up against others...

Not sure what HDRS ran NA... GTO ran I believe a best of 13.68 vs my best of 13.61... Blood was 13.7... And Darkness... well, his ricer math didn't quite work out... LOL!

TooCool5 · 12-03-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scrming

This is great news! Definitely keep us posted!

BTW... first time I met one of my little GM "birdies", the first thing he told me was to IGNORE the driver information center and CHANGE my oil every 3,000 miles!!

Lot of wisdom in this, or use Mobil1 and go 5k miles.

12-02-2011, 06:11 PM	#43
devildoc Drives: '12 Toyota Tacoma Dbl Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 1,275 View My Garage	Damn dude sorry to hear about it but I am glad you got a great dealer that is willing to work with the mods already added. Don't know what to think about that though, because I always changed my oil every 5k miles or so. It would be dark but I always thought that was due to the trips to the drag strip. __________________ MRT V2\|Trifecta Tune\|Airaid\|ARH LTs\|Eibach Sways STANDING 1/4MI: 13.948@99.87 6600RPM HP/TQ Gains - 30.54HP/24.3TQ (NOT PEAK)

12-02-2011, 07:30 PM	#45
Beauwulf Drives: '10 LT RS A6 & '04 Acura RSX Type S Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,529	This is starting to sound like the main bearings are spinning. They have holes in them to allow oil into the area between the crank journal and the bearing surface from the oil passage drilled into the crank journal. When they spin in the block, the oil hole gets more and more closed off to that bearing. If it spins around enough, the hole gets completely closed off and, with no lubrication, it will seize! There are little tabs on each bearing that are supposed to hold the bearing in place but, I have seen many plain bearing motors spin the bearings due to these tabs failing. Check this out... in the first photo, you can see the little tabs on the edges on the bearings... http://www.engineparts.com/publications/CL77-3-402.pdf __________________

12-02-2011, 10:58 PM	#50
10RsCamaro Slow v6 Drives: Automatic Automobile Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nj Posts: 526	Good to hear that it all worked out in the end! __________________ Full bolt on 2lt/Rs. Any questions? always a pm away! Obx/Mace/Rx/Mrt/Vararam/Bcam/4.11 Gears/SS Brakes USAF. Stationed in TX

12-02-2011, 11:01 PM	#51
YOUNGnRECKLESS Building the Beast Drives: 2010 VR LS3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 1,398 View My Garage	glad to hear all went well and that they are fixing it for you __________________

12-03-2011, 03:18 AM	#54
SIXJAK Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,574 View My Garage	After you get your car back, it would be cool to know how Friday went. Would love to know who got spanked by the brick too LOL. __________________ IPF supercharger kit, IPF tune, SW LT's, R. Tech HFC's, ARK DT-S catback, SS Brembo brake upgrade, BC Racing adjustable coilovers, Hurst STS, Pfadt rear arm package, Pfadt adjustable sways & end links, Pfadt diff bushings, BMR rear cradle full kit blk bezels,SS diffuser, Innovate gauges.

12-02-2011, 07:05 PM	#44
CiscoBee Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Rally Yellow 2LT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Smithtown, NY Posts: 689 View My Garage	Sorry to hear about the breakdown Blade but at least it seems like it will be repaired. Good luck with it!!!

12-02-2011, 07:45 PM	#46
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Sorry to hear and Glad they are taking care of you. I was watching my oil also. synthetic in mine and changing about 5000 miles and by 17000 was using about 1/2-3/4 of a qt.I hear these v6's use more the more you rev it high but sounds like something else caused it.

12-02-2011, 09:25 PM	#47
ChadG Drives: 2010 Black Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,679 View My Garage	Yeah I can't say this doesn't freak me out, I use Mobil 1 and change every 3k miles just because I'm OCD.

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