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Rock36 · 04-14-2007, 09:07 AM

Okay assuming the rumors are true and there will be two V8 versions for the Camaro, a N/A LS3 and a LS3 w/roots style blower.

Which would be better to get? I only ask because the aftermarket companies like Kenne Bell will probably offer better twin screw designs than the factory. Knowing that, would it be better just to get the N/A LS3 and then slap a blower on that since both V8 Camaros will have the same block and heads?

Or will the S/C LS3 be built to handle boost better i.e. forged rotating assembly? Does the L92 that the LS3 will be based off of already have forged guts?

Just some stuff I was thinking about while I was out running today.

EDIT: I guess this thread can be moved into the "5th Gen LS3 info from Chevy Hi-Po" Thread sorry for the clutter.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-14-2007, 11:31 AM

I checked on Gm's site niether the L92 or the L76(another possible condender) has forged parts, but remember these are still truck engines, if they do in fact get put into the Camaro, I'm sure some transitional changes will occur.

*TAG UR IT* · 04-14-2007, 12:24 PM

I'd have to say it might be a kind of waiting game. Sit back, wait, and see how the stock SC performs. Then, either buy the SC version or buy NA and toss another on there. It's just going to be a heck of a lot of work having to upgrade all the parts to be strong enough to handle the newly added SC. Plus, you are going to have to do a complete retune. I just think it would be a lot of work. I'd use the original...keep it under warranty...and if it breaks, not have to worry. My 2 cents.

Rock36 · 04-14-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

I'd have to say it might be a kind of waiting game. Sit back, wait, and see how the stock SC performs. Then, either buy the SC version or buy NA and toss another on there. It's just going to be a heck of a lot of work having to upgrade all the parts to be strong enough to handle the newly added SC. Plus, you are going to have to do a complete retune. I just think it would be a lot of work. I'd use the original...keep it under warranty...and if it breaks, not have to worry. My 2 cents.

I guess you are right. I think I was just thinking both versions of the camaro would be identical except one has a regular intake manifold and the other has the blower. That probably isn't realistic in retrospect.

Mungo · 04-14-2007, 02:21 PM

Well considering the cadillac XLR has an Eaton supercharger. And the blown Corvette probably will have one as well and so does the Ford lightning with only 5psi of boost.My guess is the the Camaro with one will be a kick *** unit as well. The only thing to do is play around with the amount of boost you want and play with the programing. The Eatosn supercharger has a range of 5 - 12 psi boost. It is a sweet unit. It comes on early and stays strong all through the mid range.

*TAG UR IT* · 04-14-2007, 11:08 PM

Right. I wouldn't doubt that the stock unit is going to be VERY nice and kick some serious @ss.

LSxcellent · 04-15-2007, 10:59 AM

I would always start with the blown version of the LS3... your always better off starting with a car that was DESIGNED for boost from the beginning. Start with this, and THEN mod it later on to make huge power...

As for me, I'll take the supercharged 6.2L from the Blue Devil (650hp please)...

~LSx

Casull · 04-15-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxcellent

I would always start with the blown version of the LS3... your always better off starting with a car that was DESIGNED for boost from the beginning. Start with this, and THEN mod it later on to make huge power...

As for me, I'll take the supercharged 6.2L from the Blue Devil (650hp please)...

~LSx

Agreed, I would also take the factory blown motor because it will have been designed with a s/c from the beginning.

Really, I don't see any advantage of getting the regular LS3 and adding your own s/c. It will probably cost about the same as the factory blown version in the end, and the factory version will probably come with many more "extras" like better suspension and brakes that you will miss out on.

If you are concerned about the power, then just add an aftermarket pulley for an instant 80 more horses. I mean, how much power do you really need anyway? If 550 is not enough, add the pulley. If 600-650 is not enough, then check into the looney bin because there is something wrong!

afterdigital · 04-15-2007, 05:21 PM

hmmm....0-60 in under 5 - that'll do it for me...

Rock36 · 04-16-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Casull

I mean, how much power do you really need anyway? If 550 is not enough, add the pulley. If 600-650 is not enough, then check into the looney bin because there is something wrong!

Hey nobody said I was all right in the head

04-14-2007, 09:07 AM	#1
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	Which would be the best performance option? Okay assuming the rumors are true and there will be two V8 versions for the Camaro, a N/A LS3 and a LS3 w/roots style blower. Which would be better to get? I only ask because the aftermarket companies like Kenne Bell will probably offer better twin screw designs than the factory. Knowing that, would it be better just to get the N/A LS3 and then slap a blower on that since both V8 Camaros will have the same block and heads? Or will the S/C LS3 be built to handle boost better i.e. forged rotating assembly? Does the L92 that the LS3 will be based off of already have forged guts? Just some stuff I was thinking about while I was out running today. EDIT: I guess this thread can be moved into the "5th Gen LS3 info from Chevy Hi-Po" Thread sorry for the clutter. __________________ "Anyone know who sells the driver mods?" 2007 Corvette Z06: Le Mans blue, 2LZ Last edited by Rock36; 04-14-2007 at 09:24 AM.

04-14-2007, 11:31 AM	#2
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04-14-2007, 12:24 PM	#3
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	I'd have to say it might be a kind of waiting game. Sit back, wait, and see how the stock SC performs. Then, either buy the SC version or buy NA and toss another on there. It's just going to be a heck of a lot of work having to upgrade all the parts to be strong enough to handle the newly added SC. Plus, you are going to have to do a complete retune. I just think it would be a lot of work. I'd use the original...keep it under warranty...and if it breaks, not have to worry. My 2 cents.

04-14-2007, 02:21 PM	#5
Mungo Drives: trans am Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: suffolk Posts: 363	Well considering the cadillac XLR has an Eaton supercharger. And the blown Corvette probably will have one as well and so does the Ford lightning with only 5psi of boost.My guess is the the Camaro with one will be a kick *** unit as well. The only thing to do is play around with the amount of boost you want and play with the programing. The Eatosn supercharger has a range of 5 - 12 psi boost. It is a sweet unit. It comes on early and stays strong all through the mid range.

04-14-2007, 11:08 PM	#6
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Right. I wouldn't doubt that the stock unit is going to be VERY nice and kick some serious @ss.

04-15-2007, 10:59 AM	#7
LSxcellent Drives: MINI Cooper S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 284	I would always start with the blown version of the LS3... your always better off starting with a car that was DESIGNED for boost from the beginning. Start with this, and THEN mod it later on to make huge power... As for me, I'll take the supercharged 6.2L from the Blue Devil (650hp please)... ~LSx