05-08-2013, 05:07 PM | #12811 |
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05-08-2013, 05:16 PM | #12812 |
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Uh Oh!
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05-08-2013, 08:40 PM | #12813 |
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,,,,ruttt rohhhh!!!! Say it ain't so,...it won't hurt a bit having to pay a surcharge or tax to the GOV, trust me on this one, it's well worth the price of admission to the Zclub....
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05-08-2013, 11:12 PM | #12814 |
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05-08-2013, 11:25 PM | #12815 |
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05-09-2013, 04:38 AM | #12816 |
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Regarding emissions certification.
If the Z28 is having difficulties passing current standards, would the in place technology for the C7 not be readily be available (it would require a modification of the cylinder head casting to include direct injection)? I can imagine with the huge ports; intake velocity is too low at idle to fully atomize fuel with a port injection set up. Direct injection and variable valve timing will clean up idle emissions (they do it for 9000-rpm Ferrari and Porsche). As you all know; valve/port sizing and cam timing optimized for producing power at high rpm will compromise low speed running or idle, hence all super car manufacturers have the direct injection and variable valve timing in their tool box |
05-09-2013, 04:54 AM | #12817 | |
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05-09-2013, 10:40 AM | #12818 |
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I didn't read emissions into Pete's post. I actually don't know what to make of it???
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05-09-2013, 11:02 AM | #12819 |
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I think he was implying that mass producing the LS7 would destroy GM's CAFE average, Hence the LS7 not staying around long as a production engine in cars. I could be wrong though.....
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05-09-2013, 11:09 AM | #12820 |
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None of us know for sure, my guess is that for now they will build/sell as many as they can but I don't think this version of the Z/28 will be around very long. JMO
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05-09-2013, 11:18 AM | #12821 |
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True Mac, limited by price, and how many LS7's they can build, not by an artificial number...and they will be rare, a half year MY 14 and a full MY 15. Then, goodby to the LS family, hello LT DI family and the new model for MY 16. GMPP will still offer LS7's for sometime in a crate.
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That is also the source of the confusion. If they are building Z/28 LS7 motors through October, they are not 'surplus' Vette motors sitting on a shelf in a warehouse. IF and I do mean IF the motors are actually left over surplus Vette motors sitting in a warehouse that COULD mean the Z/28 delivers at a lower MSRP. If by 'left over' or 'surplus' we are talking about the paperwork for the emissions exemption and the motors are being built right now then the cost of the LS7 going into the Z/28 is the same as the cost of the LS7s that went into the Corvette. Hib and Tom are very well connected. They say the Z/28 motors are being built as I type. They are most likely correct and my tea leaves lied to me. Or not. So how many Z/28s will they build? Great question. I wish I could do a poll within this thread. How many Z/28s will be bought? How many Z/28s will be sold with a MSRP of $59,999 How many Z/28s will be sold with a MSRP of $69,999 How many Z/28s will be sold with a MSRP of $74,999 How many Z/28s will be sold with a MSRP of $79,999 I can create scenarios for pricing across this range with the variables being the cost of key components and the business case for the Z/28. Warehoused engines would be a requirement to hit the $59,999. My post is nothing more than reading tea leaves influenced by spurious bits of information, gossip and the position of the moon in relation to the alignment of Jupiter and Mars. |
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05-09-2013, 12:26 PM | #12824 |
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Allow me to add I expect the Z/28 to be between $74,999 and $79,999. Any price lower than that is a GIFT from TEAM Camaro.
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