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Crazych66 · 01-30-2023, 11:04 AM

I have an LS3 Camaro SS and I'm gathering parts for my LSA build. I'm probably looking at maxing out at around 600 whp. I've decided on 850 injectors over the stock LSA. My questions are:

Any pros/cons against buying used? There are several FIC and ID 850s for sale with varying degrees of mileage. Buying these used are a couple hundred dollars less than new. Is that wise? My car has 50K miles if that matters....

Just wondering what folks thoughts are on this.

Thanks for the feedback.

FasNuf · 01-30-2023, 11:07 AM

I bought ID850's used with no issue, but I also had them professionally flow tested and cleaned before install. Private party sale.

Crazych66 · 01-30-2023, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FasNuf

I bought ID850's used with no issue, but I also had them professionally flow tested and cleaned before install. Private party sale.

Thanks and that's definitely a consideration. How much does flow testing and cleaning cost?

FasNuf · 01-30-2023, 02:20 PM

I don’t remember, sorry but if I remember it was about 100$

CamaroCracka · 01-30-2023, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazych66

Thanks and that's definitely a consideration. How much does flow testing and cleaning cost?

20-25 per injector. FIC and ID both do it and there is a guy Mr. Injector who does them.

dreksnot · 01-30-2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FasNuf

I don’t remember, sorry but if I remember it was about 100$

Depends on where you have it done... I sent my ID1700x injectors back to Injector Dynamics and it cost $200 plus $15 shipping to have them Cleaned and Inspected (flow tested). I know other places that specialize in injectors would do it for less, but... ID provided a pre-clean and post-clean service report for flow deviations of varying pulsewidth.

Crazych66 · 01-31-2023, 07:13 AM

Based on the price to clean and flow test, it's almost better just to buy new.

Valkyrie14 · 01-31-2023, 08:43 PM

Are you upgrading your pump? I completed a similar build, I used 850s at first on my LS3 fuel pump. Then when I upgraded to a dual fuel pump I went to ID1000s. I was able to resell my 850s to get my 1000s, both were used.

If you have headers and a good tune your LSA should get you to 600rwhp. I dynoed in December and hit 597rwhp.

Crazych66 · 02-01-2023, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

Are you upgrading your pump? I completed a similar build, I used 850s at first on my LS3 fuel pump. Then when I upgraded to a dual fuel pump I went to ID1000s. I was able to resell my 850s to get my 1000s, both were used.

If you have headers and a good tune your LSA should get you to 600rwhp. I dynoed in December and hit 597rwhp.

I'm pairing the 850s with a ZL1/Chevy SS fuel pump. Did you/do you use a BAP? Are you still just using your LS3 pump?

I have headers, gutted cats now so hopefully I can get there (600 whp) too relatively easy.

Valkyrie14 · 02-01-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazych66

I'm pairing the 850s with a ZL1/Chevy SS fuel pump. Did you/do you use a BAP? Are you still just using your LS3 pump?

I have headers, gutted cats now so hopefully I can get there (600 whp) too relatively easy.

I have a AGP Dual Fuel Pump, plenty of fuel. Take a peak at my build, we are running a very similar setup. My upper pulley is 2.85 and lower is a ZL1. I pulled 597rwhp. I am now looking at a 2.55 upper and a 10% lower. That should push me over 600 easily. Another answer to some additional HP you might want to look at before install is porting out the snout of the blower and getting a 103 mm TB.

CamaroCracka · 02-01-2023, 08:47 PM

ZL1 pump is getting close to its limits at 600whp.

Crazych66 · 02-02-2023, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

I have a AGP Dual Fuel Pump, plenty of fuel. Take a peak at my build, we are running a very similar setup. My upper pulley is 2.85 and lower is a ZL1. I pulled 597rwhp. I am now looking at a 2.55 upper and a 10% lower. That should push me over 600 easily. Another answer to some additional HP you might want to look at before install is porting out the snout of the blower and getting a 103 mm TB.

Thanks I see now you have the AGP Dual Fuel Pump. Did you have to change out much to put on the ZL1 lower pulley? Or is it a straight swap on the LS3? Just curious. I'm gonna stick with the LS3 pulley to start and the stock LSA one to baseline with the ZL1 fuel pump. Good idea about the snout.

Crazych66 · 02-02-2023, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

ZL1 pump is getting close to its limits at 600whp.

Yep, and I know when/if I get near that that it will be time to upgrade the fueling!

PhantomBlack · 02-02-2023, 11:49 AM

I wish I would have done id1050 at the start and skipped the zl1 pump all together. Now I need bigger injectors and a dsx fuel pump kit. I'm pretty much maxed out. My duty cycle was like 80% or something if I remember correctly. I should have done something similar to Valkyrie14. Spend the little extra money and be done with it the first time if your able to. Just my thoughts.

01-30-2023, 11:04 AM	#1
Crazych66 Drives: '12 Camaro 2SS/RS Vert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 185	Injectors for LSA Build I have an LS3 Camaro SS and I'm gathering parts for my LSA build. I'm probably looking at maxing out at around 600 whp. I've decided on 850 injectors over the stock LSA. My questions are: Any pros/cons against buying used? There are several FIC and ID 850s for sale with varying degrees of mileage. Buying these used are a couple hundred dollars less than new. Is that wise? My car has 50K miles if that matters.... Just wondering what folks thoughts are on this. Thanks for the feedback. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS Convertible: 2SS, LS3, M6, Triple Black. Mods: Solo Axleback, 1LE FE6 rear swaybar, CAGS delete, Vararam CAI, Heritage grill, Hotchkis springs, '15 FE4 struts/shocks, ZL1 side rockers, Velgen Classic5 wheels, Pedders radius rod bushings, ARH LTHs, gutted HFCs,...

01-30-2023, 11:07 AM	#2
FasNuf Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,619 View My Garage	I bought ID850's used with no issue, but I also had them professionally flow tested and cleaned before install. Private party sale. __________________ . . . . https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgN...etl17hA/videos

01-30-2023, 02:20 PM	#4
FasNuf Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,619 View My Garage	I don’t remember, sorry but if I remember it was about 100$ __________________ . . . . https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgN...etl17hA/videos

01-31-2023, 07:13 AM	#7
Crazych66 Drives: '12 Camaro 2SS/RS Vert Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 185	Based on the price to clean and flow test, it's almost better just to buy new. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS Convertible: 2SS, LS3, M6, Triple Black. Mods: Solo Axleback, 1LE FE6 rear swaybar, CAGS delete, Vararam CAI, Heritage grill, Hotchkis springs, '15 FE4 struts/shocks, ZL1 side rockers, Velgen Classic5 wheels, Pedders radius rod bushings, ARH LTHs, gutted HFCs,...

01-31-2023, 08:43 PM	#8
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	Are you upgrading your pump? I completed a similar build, I used 850s at first on my LS3 fuel pump. Then when I upgraded to a dual fuel pump I went to ID1000s. I was able to resell my 850s to get my 1000s, both were used. If you have headers and a good tune your LSA should get you to 600rwhp. I dynoed in December and hit 597rwhp. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

02-01-2023, 08:47 PM	#11
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,736	ZL1 pump is getting close to its limits at 600whp. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

02-02-2023, 11:49 AM	#14
PhantomBlack Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 181	I wish I would have done id1050 at the start and skipped the zl1 pump all together. Now I need bigger injectors and a dsx fuel pump kit. I'm pretty much maxed out. My duty cycle was like 80% or something if I remember correctly. I should have done something similar to Valkyrie14. Spend the little extra money and be done with it the first time if your able to. Just my thoughts. __________________ Mods: GPI SS1 VVT cam, TSP long tube headers, LSA conversion, ZL1 fuel pump, ADM FPCM, DW 700cc injectors, Lingenfelter solid isolator, Dedicated Motorsports ZL1 reinforced brick, ADM Griptech 2.5 pulley, JLT CAI, Phastek intake scoop, NPP cat-back, GM 3.91 gears, Eaton Truetrac, Tuned by Chris @ CHenry Motorsports.