04-04-2010, 07:05 AM | #1 |
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Official Learn To Drive Manual Cars Thread
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Recently I have seen several questions about manual driving basics, and I have posted a thread where I was grilled for my driving mistakes. I thought a compilation list of both good techniques and bad techniques should be posted and hopefully as a sticky. There's a lot of people who do not know about double-clutching, rev-matching, or people who roll around in neutral (like me in turns ) Let this be the complete guide to driving a manual car Post links to articles, videos, etc Rules of the thread This is not a bashing thread, or a "you dont know how to drive for shit" thread. This is a thread to discuss techniques whether they're wrong or correct driving techniques, and a thread to answer manual-driving related questions finally... Request to forum Mods if this doesnt go out of control, and doesnt turn into a bashing thread could you make it a sticky please? -------------------------------------------------------------------- SMARTLIPO MPX anadrol Last edited by arkay.wgl; 04-04-2010 at 07:18 AM. |
04-04-2010, 10:34 AM | #2 |
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60' time
M6 is a tough deal to get it to 60', a good driver can get a M6 to 60' @ 2 seconds flat. Without the good 60' time your final ET will suck. My best ET so far is 13.91 @ 111 mph 2.6 60' , left 6 10ths on the table. The best 60' to date is 2.3 but messed up the big end. Short shiffting is suppose to be important. By looking at Dyno sheet it starts to flaten out about 5700 rpm.
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04-04-2010, 10:58 AM | #3 |
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I like your way of thinking! I have seen several threads and I was interested in what others might say, so far, I have been dissappointed. With that said, I know that it may be hard to explain proper driving techinics but some simple pointers would be nice. Here's an example: What should you do when you are sitting at a stoplight. I have noticed that some people will sit at the light with the clutch pedal pushed to the floor waiting for the light to change. I have always been told to put the shifter into neutral and release the clutch pedal. When you hold the clutch pedal down the clutch plates are engaged and will cause additional wear on the cluctch plates. This is my opinion and I welcome any other opinions that confirm or deny what I have said... The other problem that I see here is that normal daily driving and racing techinics vary greatly, so the best thing to do is to find a track event and get some professional instrution, the Hurst/B&M event on May 17th will be a great for this... I know that we have some Very Smart people on this forum so I look forward to reading what others will say, and Thanks!!! :flag2:
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04-04-2010, 11:07 AM | #4 | |
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04-04-2010, 11:22 AM | #5 | |
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I went the the drag strip for the first time this weekend!!! I totally sucked off the line and I must have been taking a nap when the lights came on. My first run was 13.7 and my second run was 13.5 @ 107mph I tried to use the Launch Control but I did something wrong?!? I had to wait for the rpm's to come back down before I could leave so I left it on the line again... I reccommend that everyone take their car to the local darg strip, road course, or whatever and drive your car the way it was Meant to be driven... Please don't missunderstand me, I am saying take your car to a safe/ticket free environment and Learn what You and Your Car CAN Do! How does that go... "Some times you Need to feed your ride some Speed" :flag2:
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04-04-2010, 11:24 AM | #6 | |
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Rev matching is related to the above, but you can use this technique to downshift, and it is a bit easier on your drivetrain when done well, but it takes a lot of practice to be good at it, especially with throttle by wire cars. Basic rev match, try this... at steady speed and low rpm's, go to neutral, rev the engine +500 rpm's and shift to the next lowest gear. When you're good at it, you can do it quickly, and let the clutch out much quicker without upsetting the car. Get good at that and we'll go to rev-match while braking
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I love the Racing Quotes... :flag2:
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04-04-2010, 11:38 AM | #8 | |
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04-04-2010, 11:44 AM | #9 |
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Thankie... I edited the rev's to 500 rpm, and that still may be too low, but, the same rpm drop you get on upshift from, say, 3rd to 4th, is the same rev's to blip UP to on downshift.... Is that confusing?
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We had 4 5th gens at the track, the only guy that had good 60' times was the guy that was using the launch control. He had it down and had a 1.8 Great Stuff!
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04-04-2010, 12:10 PM | #11 | |
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The best thing I have heard recently is: You Don't use downshifting or the engine to brake the car, that's why we have Brakes!!!
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04-04-2010, 12:22 PM | #12 | |
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Stock tires or DR's? From what I have read the guy's on the Official go fast list slide the clutch. |
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04-04-2010, 12:32 PM | #13 | |
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Those guy's on the list are Good!!! Lots of practice!!!
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