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Old 03-31-2012, 07:35 PM   #1
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Non-BA Amp Install Questions

I just ordered a JL Audio HD900/5 and 10w6v2 for my 1SS. I do not have the BA system in my car. I am not replacing the factory head unit, and have no plans of ever doing so. I am trying to determine the best way to wire this up.

For now, I am still using the factory speakers, and do not plan to push them with my amp. I am only using the amp to drive my sub. I do not want to have to re-buy anything or re-wire anything in the future, when I replace the factory speakers. So I want to wire all 4 channels to the amp now.

I have the AA-GM44, which really looks like a POS. But it has a nice wiring harness. Some people recommend Signal processors when using the factory head unit.



Should I just use my AA-GM44 as it was intended? If I were to use a signal processor, would I send a signal to it via RCAs from the AA-GM44? Or would I have to run line-level signals to the signal processor?

Also, what is the optimum length RCAs to run from behind the head unit to the trunk?
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:43 PM   #2
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I did this in my car before the camaro. It was easier to wire the amp to the factory head unit and power the speakers that way. The most time consuming part was wireing the speakers to the head unit.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:13 AM   #3
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Is it possible to convince my radio that it's a UQA (BA system) vice UQ3 (basic system) so that I can use the built in amp control signal and the low level signal outputs?

This would make it so that I could just cut the AA-GM44 harness and put RCA connectors on it, then send the signal to the trunk.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:42 PM   #4
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One more question (that will probably be un-answered).

The AA-GM44 wiring harness has a blue wire on pin 37 that runs from the male to the female side of the harness. This is the amp remote turn on wire for the UQA (BA) system.

Does anyone know if this wire actually works on the non-BA equipped cars?
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:50 AM   #5
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Is it possible to convince my radio that it's a UQA (BA system) vice UQ3 (basic system) so that I can use the built in amp control signal and the low level signal outputs?

This would make it so that I could just cut the AA-GM44 harness and put RCA connectors on it, then send the signal to the trunk.
Possibly, im sire someone here can figure it out. sounds like maybe a software upgrade will be needed
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:30 PM   #6
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All i did was TAP into 1 6x9 speaker and use the RCA's plug into amp, no wiring to head unit and your only powering the sub like me, then just wire up remote to cig lighter, and hot and ground to battery.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:13 AM   #7
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That's not an option, as I'm using a 5 channel amp.

I picked up a set of speakers and am going to try seeing if the factory remote amp wire works.

Edit: More importantly, it doesn't address my remote amp line concern.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #8
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See http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214181

Basically to use the AA-GM44 you need to cut the harness. Send the 4 speakers (8 wires) down speed wire, which will go into your amp. You will not use the remote wire in the AA-GM44. The other side of the wires go into the AA-GM44 (radio side). Turn the levels on the AA-GM44 all the way up before putting it behind the radio.

Take the remote wire from your amp kit and run it from the cig socket in the center console.

Note: You're 100% correct, it is a POS but it works really well for being a POS. Tape the cover down before you shove it behind the radio so it doesn't come apart.
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One more question (that will probably be un-answered).

The AA-GM44 wiring harness has a blue wire on pin 37 that runs from the male to the female side of the harness. This is the amp remote turn on wire for the UQA (BA) system.

Does anyone know if this wire actually works on the non-BA equipped cars?
No.
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Also, what is the optimum length RCAs to run from behind the head unit to the trunk?
I used 6 meters and I used every bit of them. I mounted my amp in the factory location, even though I like you, did not have a factory amp.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:32 PM   #11
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See http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214181

Basically to use the AA-GM44 you need to cut the harness. Send the 4 speakers (8 wires) down speed wire, which will go into your amp. You will not use the remote wire in the AA-GM44. The other side of the wires go into the AA-GM44 (radio side). Turn the levels on the AA-GM44 all the way up before putting it behind the radio.

Take the remote wire from your amp kit and run it from the cig socket in the center console.

Note: You're 100% correct, it is a POS but it works really well for being a POS. Tape the cover down before you shove it behind the radio so it doesn't come apart.
If you used the PAC, why didn't you use the remote amp wire that comes out of the unit (not the one coming from pin 37 on the wiring harness)?

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No.
No, it doesn't work? Or no you don't know?
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If you used the PAC, why didn't you use the remote amp wire that comes out of the unit (not the one coming from pin 37 on the wiring harness)?
I didn't use it because it is unreliable. I didn't want to use the PAC for anything other than 4 channel RCAs. The PAC is already a POS, I didn't want to use it for anything that could be gotten somewhere else. If I already have to get behind the radio, which requires taking apart the radio and take out the rear seat, why not gra the remote from a reliable source.

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No, it doesn't work? Or no you don't know?
No it doesn't work. The BA system harness is part of the body harness. The remote is not a switched 12v, which is what you will need for an amp turn on.
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I'm actually in Smithfield, VA right now (right outside of Newport News). If you want to swing by so I can show you how to wire that PAC let me know.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:52 PM   #14
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Thanks for the offer, but my amp won't be here until Friday. I'm just planning everything out. Now, I don't even know if I'll do it this weekend, b/c Sonicelectronix took 3 days to process my order and it won't be here until Wed of next week.

I know how to wire the PAC, but my amp recommends that I not use a LOC. But I still plant to use the harness that was included with the PAC, so that I don't have to cut my factory wiring.
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