07-22-2013, 10:33 AM | #113 |
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Lucy, you have some 'splaining to do!
Assasinator asserts that Chev is failing by only building a few Z/28s. Just like Ford only built a few BOSS LS/yr. 1500 total. Tat for tit. Pot calling kettle "black".
IF (capitalized) Chev wanted to marginalize the Z/28 name (again?), they could have used it (appropriately) on the 1LE, and called it the "Base" Z/28. Just as Ford did with the "Base" BOSS, which btw was NOT the actual car used in all the magazine comparos. 8500 Base BOSSes allowed Ford to lower the price of the BOSS LS by spreading the engine development costs over a far greater number of cars. Even though those greater number of cars do NOT share performance capabilities equally, as produced by Ford. 1LE meets/exceeds the BOSS LS in cornering capabilities, let alone the Base BOSS, as per Lightning Lap with independent drivers, non-aligned with any specific Manufacturer. Z/28 will exceed the capabilities of anything Ford attaches a VIN to, today, and will likely exceed the Ford GT as well. A car built by Ford, who was making cars the average person cannot obtain = fail. And the Z/28 will cost well less than HALF of the "birthday present to itself" Ford GT. So who's really failing, here? Understand now, Ricky? |
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All tests on the same course at VIR. This year, last year, next year. 5 years ago. A "fast time" at VIR is a pretty valid time, over the same course. And the $37,000 1LE beat the BOSS LS, which is without doubt quicker than a Base BOSS, the Ford Fans' favorite when quoting that $42,000 price. And, of course, the ZL1 beat the 500, which beat the LS. None of which stand a chance against the Z/28. Even if, for argument's sake, we say the 1LE is only a MATCH for the LS, you're still $12,500 in pocket with the purchase of the 1LE. Speaking of who failed. |
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http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html if we go by his reasoning then the 2013 GT500 is just as fast as a Corvette ZR1? The Z28 is going to be the best performing Camaro on a road course, it sure will be. |
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I believe the transmissions are the same for the 1LE and Z/28. And it was Ford that didn't want the comparison test between the 1LE & Boss, otherwise it would have been done numerous times. Why didn't Ford want to compare? For review see comments from Popular Mechanics below: "At GingerMan Raceway we fitted a Boss 302 and a Camaro SS 1LE with VBox testing gear, and after an afternoon of testing, the Camaro emerged victorious. The 1LE was 2.5 seconds faster per lap, with higher cornering grip. Subjectively, the Camaro is easier to drive very fast, with loads of traction and dead-on balance." Read more: Ford Mustang Boss 302 vs. Chevy Camaro SS 1LE Follow us: @PopMech on Twitter | popularmechanics on Facebook Visit us at PopularMechanics.com
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Yes we all understand that your just trying to justify your ZL1 finally satisfied. Once this Z/28 hits the lots you won't be satisfied any more you sorry soul.
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07-23-2013, 11:10 AM | #121 |
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"I have yet seen a Camaro 1LE at the track I go to
...I run about once a month I'd love to see a 1LE at the track I run at Eagles Canyon Raceway just north of Dallas" Send me some gas money and I will be happy to come down... |
07-23-2013, 11:28 AM | #122 |
my though is: a car must be driven everyday... its stupid to buy a 60K+ car and keep it hidden... but... this car doesnt make sense to me... and thats fine because I just go to the drag race 2 or 3 weakends per month... and this kind of car would be a none sense, The z/28 is an awsome car... but it never going to be compared to a GTR or other super car because you can easly use a GTR, AMG SLS, as your DD... because they arent a overpowered striped down version of the standard car ... I prefer 100 times an 1LE, ZL1, or a Hennesey camaro over this...
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Price Z28
Just talked to a dealership nere me, not telling you who....hahaha but below is what he stated (i had an allocation on a new ZL1 in 2011 with them but didnt go through; VERY stand up group, they quoted the ZL1 right on the nose when i was going to buy one.)
Doug! My favorite bendonian! So we have two Allocations For z28s. Should be placing the orders in August . Now we aware these things are pretty Much race cars.... 1 speaker stereo system. .. Ac is an option Stripped down pretty good. However it is gonna be one Bad mother! Pricing is a bit of a mystery at the moment but we r guessing It will be much like the zl1 and hang In the 60's Sent from my iPhone |
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The basis of this thread was "Z/28 Price", right? And the hypothesis was raised that the BOSS LS, if only built in a 1,500-total series, would have been very expensive, as well. Another 8,500 versions, festooned with different components and a wealth of available options, did little for the BOSS Brand except lower the Unit Cost/BOSS. Suffice to say, to those fortunate few who actually secure a Gen-5 Z/28, their investment and results will make them smile a super-ultra-perma-grin. No poseurs need apply. |
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...k/viewall.html "We hear you loud and clear -- you're wondering if maybe the Boss 302 might be a tougher opponent for the SS 1LE. Well, we asked Ford for a Boss and were politely refused." Going against the ZL1 they had nothing to lose.
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