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Old 10-28-2015, 01:45 PM   #1
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The 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS Sends the Ford Mustang GT to the Slaughter

http://www.thedrive.com/article/657/...-the-slaughter

We’re going to need a new name for Motown specials like the Chevrolet Camaro. “Muscle car” doesn’t do it justice, not for a machine built on the stellar Cadillac ATS/CTS chassis. Not for a car that’s such a glutton for curves. “Pony car” is a cutesy euphemism from an era when Camaros and Ford Mustangs were mostly—let’s face it—antiquated crap fit only for intramural battle; like watching the Detroit Lions play the Cleveland Browns for the duration of the Eighties, Nineties and early Aughts.

But suddenly, Detroit’s blue-collar underdogs are fielding high-dollar performance editions like the Camaro Z/28 (previous generation) and Shelby GT350. Once as limited to straight-line speed as a slot car, these modern versions have created a bizarro world, putting up racetrack times on par with holies like the Porsche 911 and BMW M3.

Yet most people can’t or won’t spend $50,000 to $75,000 on a Camaro or Mustang. The real battle will be pitched at a more middle-class price point, between standard V-8, V-6 and turbocharged four-cylinder versions. In sales at least, it’s a battle the Camaro has never lost since its rebirth in 2010. And though the 2015 Mustang appears certain to outsell the Camaro this year as Chevrolet switches over its factory production, this 2016 model seems primed to nab both sales and performance titles.

That puts all eyes on Camaro SS versus Mustang GT. V-8 versus V-8. A barroom brawl for fanatics that I might as well pour the Jaeger shots for: Camaro wins.

Sure, the Ford is still the looker of the pair, a textbook lesson in balancing a beloved design heritage with modern cues. But nearly every other category falls Chevy’s way: horsepower, acceleration, steering, handling, interior design, fitment and intuitive technology.

Credit Chevy’s engineers, but also an almost unfair inheritance: the Cadillac chassis that underpins two of the best-performing sport sedans on the planet, the ATS-V and CTS-V. (Chevy emphasizes that 70 percent of components are unique to Camaro). Also credit superior transmissions, including GM’s eight-speed paddle-shifted automatic versus the Ford’s slower and less efficient six-speed; and a Corvette-derived V-8 that outsizes and ultimately overwhelms the Ford’s Coyote 5-liter.

As part of a four-week, 48-state road trip, Chevy handed me the keys to a shiny blue Camaro SS in Syracuse, N.Y., with instructions only to have it in Boston by the following afternoon. I proceeded to rack up 560 fast-paced miles, the majority in mountainous Adirondack Park. (I’d earlier driven the new, 335-hp Camaro LT V-6 on Detroit’s Belle Isle racecourse prior to the Detroit Gran Prix.)

This slimmed-down Chevy sheds roughly 200 lbs on average, and nearly 300 for the V-6 version. It’s about two inches shorter than before, an inch lower and narrower. A host of modest changes—including a peekaboo upper grille and headlamps and resculpted sides—make for a leaner and more handsome profile. But the lowered roofline does no favors for the notoriously poor outward visibility: Side windows are so short that poking my head out reminded me of a canine squeezing through a miniature doggy door.

The Camaro’s smartly revamped interior scores its first win over the more plasticky Mustang. Surfaces are softly padded, and driver’s instruments are striking and legible. Knurled metallic bezels, the likes of which you’d find in an Audi, ring console vents that smartly integrate temperature control. The Chevy MyLink infotainment touchscreen, including new Apple CarPlay, easily bests Ford’s obsolescent, Microsoft-based Sync unit. Press the OnStar button to summon carbon-based assistance (or accidentally when you meant to switch on the cabin light). And options such as a reconfigurable head-up display and an adjustable magnetic suspension can’t be had on the GT ‘Stang.

Available with all three engines, the six-speed manual transmission looks good and, I swear, feels even more direct and precise than the Stingray’s seven-speed. The redesigned console ensures the shifter doesn’t butt up against cups or bottles in their holders.

Notwithstanding its hardcore special editions, the last-generation Camaro was powerful yet prone to piggish understeer, and honestly not all that fun to drive. The new one is a revelation, a barnstorming driver’s car, a muscle head’s dream: Picture a Cadillac ATS-V, only 120 lbs lighter, with a Corvette V-8 and an awesome stick, and you’ve got the general idea.

Adirondack Park includes a 2.6-million-acre forest preserve, with 43 mountains that top 4,000 feet and the source of the Hudson River bubbling near Lake Tear-of-the-Clouds. Once a forbidding wilderness, the preserve rolls out a splendorous two-lane welcome mat for this Midwest interloper.

To land the first volley in the bloody Ford-Chevy wars, start with the Chevy’s superior power-to-weight ratio. With its 28-percent stiffer chassis, the SS is slimmed to 3,685 lbs, officially 20 fewer than the Mustang GT. Modular construction let Chevy optimize the design for various engines: The 335-horse V-6 version weighs 250 fewer pounds than the SS. A 275-horsepower turbo four model that goes on sale next, alongside a convertible, will weigh a sports-car-like 3,339 lbs. That’s 390 fewer than the departing V-6 Camaro.
The SS’s 455-hp and 455 lb-ft of torque stack against the Ford’s 435 horses and 400 lb-ft. The Ford’s brilliant, overhead-valve Coyote V-8 revs to giddier 7,000-rpm heights. But the Chevy’s pushrod V-8 has 1.2 liters more displacement, a nearly 15-percent torque advantage and, when paired with the automatic, can deactivate half its cylinders to save fuel. Every little bit: The Camaro automatic’s 17/28 mpg federal rating bests the Ford’s 16/25 mpg economy.

About that snappy, power-maxing eight-speed automatic. It helps the Camaro SS burn to 60 mph in 4 seconds flat, a half-second quicker than the Mustang GT with its mere six speeds. The Chevy continues to pull away, posting a sparkling 12.3-second quarter mile at 116 mph, versus 12.8 seconds at 112 mph for the Ford. Bye-bye, Mustang.

The Camaro’s optional, direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6, also bequeathed from Cadillac, brings a similar advantage with 335 hp versus 300 for the Ford’s 3.7-liter V-6. Hustling to 60 mph in 5.1 seconds, it’s quicker than either the Mustang’s V-6 or its 310-horsepower EcoBoost turbo four.

Straight-line numbers, however, are almost beside the point—as heretical as that may sound. I’ll enter here that the Camaro has transcended such stats. Thanks in part to its inheritances from Cadillac—which deserves some Philanthropist of the Year award—the Camaro feels as much a nimble sport sedan as a muscle car. Its rack-mounted electric ZF steering shares hardware, software and its quick ratio with the ATS-V and CTS-V, but the Camaro enjoys a wider track and and even more caster angle thanks to its longer dash-to-axle ratio. That steering is a paragon of on-center feel, and a pure love connection through the curves.

Here’s the deal: The Ford and Chevy are both fast. But the Camaro’s sophisticated steering is its biggest performance edge over the Mustang, which suffers from a relatively lazy rack and mute feedback. Powerful Brembo brakes are also standard on the SS, along with coolers for transmission and differential oil, and a handy limited-slip differential for manual models.

Optional Magnetic Ride Control, another present from the Cadillac-Corvette sugar daddies, hands the Chevy another edge: the ability to tailor ride and handling for mellow cruising or track assaults. It’s integrated into the Drive Mode Selector with its Tour, Sport, Track and Snow/Ice settings, which calibrate the engine, transmission and stability systems.

Chevy claims the SS, shod with 20-inch Goodyear Eagle F1 rubber, pulls .97 g’s in lateral grip. It’s a remarkable number for a car whose handling was traditionally as limp and greasy as a mullet. And the previous Camaro’s terminal understeer is largely banished.

Blessed with its modern, manifold gifts, this SS carves up the Adirondacks like a runaway lumberjack. Lighting up tires in first gear, or pulling hard through forested sweepers in fourth, the Camaro also sounds great, a pissed-off bear woken from hibernation every time I mat the gas.
The Camaro SS does lose one showroom battle: At $37,295, it costs about four grand more than a base Mustang GT. The V-6 model, at $26,695, stretches about $2,000 beyond a six-cylinder ‘Stang.

Before Ford loyalists accuse me of being a Mustang hater or GM board member, let me be clear: I love the GT, and the Shelby GT350 even more. Growing up in Detroit, I was never a fan of the Camaro, a car that symbolized all the lunkhead jockery I hated. (The Dead Milkmen’s “Bitchin’ Camaro” summed this up nicely.)

But facts are facts. This Chevy rocks, harder and louder than the Ford, but also better. To Mustang fans whose ripostes consist of “Sez You,” “F-You” or “So’s your mother,” all I can say is, drive the Camaro SS yourself. Then we’ll talk.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:49 PM   #2
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Some quotes for those who say the Camaro only gets hand-me-downs

“Credit …an almost unfair inheritance: the Cadillac chassis that underpins two of the best-performing sport sedans on the planet... Also credit superior transmissions…and a Corvette-derived V-8 that outsizes and ultimately overwhelms the Ford’s Coyote 5-liter

‘’’ Picture a Cadillac ATS-V, only 120 lbs lighter, with a Corvette V-8 and an awesome stick, and you’ve got the general idea…

….Thanks in part to its inheritances from Cadillac—which deserves some Philanthropist of the Year award—the Camaro feels as much a nimble sport sedan as a muscle car….

…the Camaro’s sophisticated steering is its biggest performance edge over the Mustang, which suffers from a relatively lazy rack and mute feedback..

…Optional Magnetic Ride Control, another present from the Cadillac-Corvette sugar daddies, hands the Chevy another edge…”
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:10 PM   #3
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I havnt read a thing in this yet. I just LOVE the title! Hehe
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Old 10-28-2015, 03:38 PM   #4
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Well written review. Enjoyed it!
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Old 10-28-2015, 03:41 PM   #5
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Wow! Now there's a positive review lol.

He says the Mustang is still the looker...and that's the only part I disagree with lol. But hey looks are always subjective, and I'm sure all the Ford boys would agree with him on that one.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:02 PM   #6
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I personally think all 3 of the cars in the segment are very attractive cars this year
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:22 PM   #7
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That MPG they had in their articles sounds too good to be true....28 highway for SS automatic.
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That MPG they had in their articles sounds too good to be true....28 highway for SS automatic.
The 4,250lb Scat Pack Challenger with the 392 and A8 can hit 26.5 mpg on the highway. A Camaro with a slightly smaller engine and 550lbs lighter with DI is totally possible I think.
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Old 10-28-2015, 05:08 PM   #9
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That MPG they had in their articles sounds too good to be true....28 highway for SS automatic.
I agree. That would be better than the V6 manual which is the only one officially released so far. 18 city / 27 hwy

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....n=sbs&id=37073
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That MPG they had in their articles sounds too good to be true....28 highway for SS automatic.
The Vette with the same engine and 4-cylinder mode can hit low 30's MPG.
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I agree. That would be better than the V6 manual which is the only one officially released so far. 18 city / 27 hwy

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....n=sbs&id=37073
This is just straight up false.
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That author, Lawrence Urlich, was the senior auto critic at the New York Times for years (up until they recently decided to can their weekly auto section). He's driven virtually everything on the planet, so he's got a solid experiential basis for his judgements.

He's just written a follow-up piece further explaining his choice of the Camaro over the S550:

http://www.thedrive.com/article/682/...tang-heres-why
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That author, Lawrence Urlich, was the senior auto critic at the New York Times for years (up until they recently decided to can their weekly auto section). He's driven virtually everything on the planet, so he's got a solid experiential basis for his judgements.

He's just written a follow-up piece further explaining his choice of the Camaro over the S550:

http://www.thedrive.com/article/682/...tang-heres-why
Another well written article that articulates what I see in the new GM also. GM lost me as a customer (other than V8 RWD) in the mid 90s. I'm interested in all now.

...Do we detect a pattern here? GM, at long last, is leveraging its giant corporate toolkit to build the best performance cars its designers and engineers can imagine. It’s not being hamstrung by the old turf wars, the idea that one division’s best technology is too good or valuable to share with other brands...

...But while GM is doing the noblesse oblige thing, Ford can’t do the same: Its Lincoln division has nothing that Ford wants, whether in design, technology or performance. Lincoln has been the dirty urchin of luxury brands, rattling its cup and begging for leftovers from its heartless Ford parent...

...GM’s commitment to building and sharing its Alpha platform and technology tells you not just why the Camaro kicks the Mustang’s butt, but why Cadillac will continue to kick Lincoln’s....

...As for Camaro vs. Mustang? Well, when a Chevy wields such weoponry, it makes for an unfair fight...
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