02-05-2020, 05:21 PM | #15 |
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I had both a ported TB and 3:91 gears installed before I installed the VTC and neither one nor both combined provided the instant acceleration as the VTC. Wish the VTC was available before I got the PTB and 3:91s as it would have saved my a LOT of $$$, but now that I have all three
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02-05-2020, 06:40 PM | #16 |
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Even before the whipple i didn't have a problem with response, more pedal more go. WOT is WOT right? You like getting 25% throttle when you only push it 10%? Couldn't you just push the pedal to 25%? I mean i get if there's some lag before the throttle starts opening but i didn't feel i had that issue.
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02-05-2020, 06:41 PM | #17 | |
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02-05-2020, 09:35 PM | #18 |
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You're right that a TC does not make your car faster, it just makes it feel quicker, lighter more responsive. And yes I would choose a TC over 3:91s just from a responsiveness perspective not from a speed perspective
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02-05-2020, 10:15 PM | #19 |
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Still doesn't make sense. A TC and gears address two VERY different issues.
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02-05-2020, 10:56 PM | #20 | |
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As for just giving the car 25% more throttle, it's not the same as it is also a time/delay thing. I think the way it works is it decreases the amount of time it takes for the throttle blade to open 25%, 50%, 60% etc... It feels immediate, but is adjustable. You still have full use of pedal range. In other words, you are not at 100% input when only pressing the pedal 50%. I really wish I could explain this better. But as you said above, I think it's one of those things you really would have to try yourself to see, and I certainly wouldn't expect anyone that is already happy with their throttle to lay out the money for that. When I bought mine it wasn't because I was unhappy with my response. I was just curious and also figured for all the rave reviews people were giving, the low relative cost, and the claimed improvement in throttle feel, that it was worth taking the risk. Once installed it really was a 'holy shit' reaction. The difference was night and day. But I totally get that they are not for everyone.
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02-06-2020, 06:53 AM | #21 |
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I get it, makes it more like a cable throttle I just don't have an issue with mine. I mean I would like to try it to see if I liked it but it isn't worth the price tag to me. Maybe if I saw one used for $50
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02-06-2020, 10:58 AM | #22 |
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Most of the people that say just push the pedal down faster just haven't been able to feel it in person. Just try driving another Camaro with it installed and you will see what the difference is.
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I drove a 1969 Camaro in High School in the 80s and recently treated myself to a used 1-owner V6 Gen5 with 172K mi. I love this car. I just grabbed a used Vitesse TC from Craigslist for $70 shipped. I've only used it on the SP5 setting so far & it is an "instagrin" mod. I like it so much that if my car starts throwing codes or goes into 'limp mode', I will remove it & immediately pay full price for a new one from another manufacturer, probably the one with the US-made circuit board (JMS PedalMax). Given your car's impressive drivetrain, you may not want instant throttle response - but I am comfortable predicting that anyone with a stock motor or a V6 will be very pleased with throttle response improved such that you must train yourself not to break traction (even with new tires) - or dial down the device's effect. That's my opinion/contribution to this discussion subject - though I apologize for having no pertinent information on the Commander version. |
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02-07-2020, 07:32 PM | #24 |
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Best Mod I have done. Get the bluetooth version. Works great.
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02-07-2020, 07:37 PM | #25 | |
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Maybe I should finally put mine on? Haha... I've been very happy with my throttle response. The car feels light on its feet and the power immediate is to my liking. I got mine like 5yrs ago... I think its still in my glove box. |
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02-07-2020, 07:52 PM | #26 | |
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Spec, if you are already happy with your car I would say keep it as is. But of course curiosity may get the best of you like it did to me. Now there is no way I could go back to not using one.
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This unit is $51, shipped. I highly recommend it before spending $200, just my two cents. Quote: Originally Posted by uvraise View Post I've had this for over a year now, not a single issue. I even left the module in my pants pocket once and washed it, still works great! I posted a while back about the VTC. I had quite a few issues with it. I would definitely purchase this product again, not to mention it's much cheaper now then when I bought it. Let me know if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...2f7a6d512TsfBl __________________
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[QUOTE=uvraise;10719168]I posted this a while ago. I had the Vitesse and had issues with it after about a year. Say what you want about the electronics from China, but I left this unit in my pants pocket, full wash and dry cycles and it still works like the day I installed it.
This unit is $51, shipped. I highly recommend it before spending $200, just my two cents. Quote: Originally Posted by uvraise View Post I've had this for over a year now, not a single issue. I even left the module in my pants pocket once and washed it, still works great! I posted a while back about the VTC. I had quite a few issues with it. I would definitely purchase this product again, not to mention it's much cheaper now then when I bought it. Let me know if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. NEW LINK TO THE PRODUCT: https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...2b302fc22oCsdn
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