Automatic faster than the manual???

[CamaroSpike23]

ok... apparently no one reads my posts... like the one on the bottom of page 2 for instance....

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Thats what we're trying to understand.

doesnt make sense... 400lbs lighter... just as much hp... ????

doesnt add up.

HP sells cars, Torque wins races. shifting at the optimal point on the power curve is key, which is why the optimized auto beats the manual. driving the manual, the driver more than likely had to go easy on the launch to keep from spinning the tires and getting too much wheel hop.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I'll disagree with RT (reaction time). if they are using the G-tech then RT doesn't matter it only start recording after the first 10 feet. and with the TR6060 tranny you will do 60 mph in first. but yea a ton of factors go in to it and I only believe my own times. . .

Reaction time in this case is the time between when your mind says it's time to shift and you actually take action...

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by 2sharp

6-speed all the way!!!!!!!!

So you're getting the 6-Speed auto?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Reaction time in this case is the time between when your mind says it's time to shift and you actually take action...

yea but with this tranny I will guarantee they will be doing 60 in first. so it doesn't matter.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

yea but with this tranny I will guarantee they will be doing 60 in first. so it doesn't matter.

I also said 1/4 mile too unless it takes a 1/4 mile to do 0-60, it aint' an Escort...

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I also said 1/4 mile too unless it takes a 1/4 mile to do 0-60, it aint' an Escort...

lol. 1/4 is a joke. do a standing mile. . .I want to see that number.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

lol. 1/4 is a joke. do a standing mile. . .I want to see that number.

how about 0-150?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

how about 0-150?

not fast enough. . .

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by 2sharp

I'm getting the manual. For crying out loud even the magazines can't agree on a 0-60 time and 1/4 mile times for the same cars.

I second that...................there's such a big discrepancy between all the car mags -----


6-speed all the way!!!!!!!!

"6-speed" is not such a great way to name the manual transmission, considering that the automatic is a 6 speed too.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Are these numbers 'official'? No....

garfin: Can you share projected 0-60 and 1/4 mi. times with us?

DougHoulihan: Performance numbers will be released as we get closer to production, but we're very happy with the test results.

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by Shifty 6

For the rest of us Camaro fans....just tell everyone "No it's really fast, I got the auto, in a controlled environment, on the right day, with the right driver, man she will fly!! Oh that other pedal? I just rest my foot on it when I'm at stop lights"

I'm getting the manual. For crying out loud even the magazines can't agree on a 0-60 time and 1/4 mile times for the same cars.

Here's a tip...Get the car YOU want! Life is too short to worry about what the other guy thinks.

i seriously doubt that anyone here would buy a car based on "what the other guy thinks"

If the Auto is that much faster, than that is the argument to be made. not that someone else thinks its cool, who cares? this isnt high school.

get what you want. but if im in a Manual, i dont want to get smoked by some bum in the same car, w/ an auto tranny.

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

ok... apparently no one reads my posts... like the one on the bottom of page 2 for instance....








HP sells cars, Torque wins races. shifting at the optimal point on the power curve is key, which is why the optimized auto beats the manual. driving the manual, the driver more than likely had to go easy on the launch to keep from spinning the tires and getting too much wheel hop.

so if you where to learn the points on the manual.... you could reproduce the results of the auto?

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

yea but with this tranny I will guarantee they will be doing 60 in first. so it doesn't matter.

will you really get to 60 in first?

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

so if you where to learn the points on the manual.... you could reproduce the results of the auto?

yes and no. there are too many variables. main two being the gear ratios (tranny and rear) and the driver.

no human can shift as fast as an auto can. by the time you've thought about pushing the clutch in, the auto has already shifted

[Shifty 6]

Congo, my point is... Guys are making a decision about which transmission to buy based on a spec sheet. "well the spec sheet says its .2 seconds faster so...." I have heard people wanting a manual say they are getting the auto because the spec sheet says its faster. If all you are looking for is a faster car then I don't think the Camaro is what will make you happy. I'm just saying, it won't matter what the guy next to me has, it is going to boil down to who gets the jump on the light and the driver if you are racing. But for the other 99.4% of the time drive what you prefer. Some guys deal with traffic and don't want the manual. For me it will never matter, I'll get the manual. To me that is driving, the auto is just steering.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Thats what we're trying to understand.

doesnt make sense... 400lbs lighter... just as much hp... ????

doesnt add up.

It's only 200 lbs lighter my friend .