Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Forced Induction - V8


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-16-2018, 06:05 PM   #785
bct10985

 
Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dover, De
Posts: 1,451
Get that belt fixed and go back! Are the tracks open all year in texas?
__________________
ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph
bct10985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2018, 09:01 PM   #786
QUICRNU

 
Drives: Z06 wannabe
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 1,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggFoot View Post
LOL!!

When you feel the car skating a bit through 3rd gear and your azz is planted in the seat with the guard rail zipping past on one side and all you can say to yourself is "just hang with me baby" till you finally are able to let off the accelerator and begin to slow down, then maybe I am getting too old for this.
Yes Sir, it was a fun ride all right!

With that 143 mph, if I ever do hit a take-off AND my shifts, then no telling what the 9.X time slip would be (even with the limiter it), however I am finding it is much easier said that done with a manual.

And yes, it leaves me wondering what an extra 125 hp would do to make up for my lousy take-off's
BOOYA!

Don't sell yourself short Foot, you are never too old, perhaps it has just been a while since you have been dating with that kinda lady! You just gotta get back in the flow of the saddle!!


Few more dates and you will get that confidence back !!


You are the man, we will be staying tuned.
__________________
Apex Focused
QUICRNU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 06:36 AM   #787
bct10985

 
Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dover, De
Posts: 1,451
Jrod6410 ran a 9.61@145 but didnt post it on here. Claims to be the fastest M6 5th gen.
__________________
ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph
bct10985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 07:12 AM   #788
jeff657756
 
Drives: 2014 SS 1LE
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 657
Quote:
Originally Posted by bct10985 View Post
Jrod6410 ran a 9.61@145 but didnt post it on here. Claims to be the fastest M6 5th gen.
Yea its on his instagram page.
__________________
jeff657756 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 09:49 AM   #789
BiggFoot

 
BiggFoot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,391
Quote:
Originally Posted by bct10985 View Post
Jrod6410 ran a 9.61@145 but didnt post it on here. Claims to be the fastest M6 5th gen.
Good for him Is he Street Registered??

I drove mine to the track and would have driven it home except for mechanical difficulty, lol.
__________________
F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi
Blower Cam
Brodix BP BR 3 Heads
Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust
Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion

DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears
McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave
RPM Level VII
TR6060
BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks
Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials
10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile


BiggFoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 09:52 AM   #790
BiggFoot

 
BiggFoot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,391
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff657756 View Post
Yea its on his instagram page.
Well if this is the same JRod you guys are talking about, that doesn't look like a 5th Gen to me, just saying.
__________________
F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi
Blower Cam
Brodix BP BR 3 Heads
Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust
Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion

DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears
McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave
RPM Level VII
TR6060
BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks
Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials
10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile


BiggFoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 10:02 AM   #791
fif_gen_powa

 
fif_gen_powa's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,525
https://instagram.com/j_rod6410
__________________
388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400
8.3@164
https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/
fif_gen_powa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 10:18 AM   #792
760bowtie

 
760bowtie's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 1SS/RS, 2018 Silverado CC
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 1,487
https://www.instagram.com/p/BehHD7Ij...d=tmquk424xdzr
__________________
AGP 57/57 turbos and Dual Pump System, NA Cam, McLeod RXT clutch, MGW shifter, ZL1 Rear End, BMR Trailing Arms/Toe Rods, Pegasus Solid Cradle Bushings 10.7 @140mph M6
760bowtie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 10:23 AM   #793
mrimpala02

 
Drives: Black 2SS RS w/White Stripes
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 775
He does drive it, but the question is if he was still on the stock bottom end? He rebuilt the engine somewhat recently.
__________________
2010 2SS/RS "ChriSStine":
Pat G Custom Turbo CamMotion Camshaft | AGP TT BB Garrett 62/65's | AGP/Fore Triple Pumps | ID1700X Injectors | Alky Control Twin Nozzle Meth | Custom 3" Exhaust | 3.27 gear set w/ Tru Trac | McLeod Twin RXT | Barton Short Throw Shifter | 6th Gen ZL1 Wheels | BMR 1.4" drop springs | Pfadt rear trailing arms & tie rods |

Installed by Me & Tuned by Pat G
mrimpala02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 10:39 AM   #794
fif_gen_powa

 
fif_gen_powa's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,525
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrimpala02 View Post
He does drive it, but the question is if he was still on the stock bottom end? He rebuilt the engine somewhat recently.
Looks to be a TSP built 408 LQ9
__________________
388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400
8.3@164
https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/
fif_gen_powa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2018, 03:12 PM   #795
BiggFoot

 
BiggFoot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,391
Well, the M6 fast list is "anything goes" (Street Registered) so shame on him for not turning it in

Got to hand it to him . . . it was a nice run! Im not done yet, though but beating 9.61 is gonna be tough.
__________________
F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi
Blower Cam
Brodix BP BR 3 Heads
Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust
Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion

DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears
McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave
RPM Level VII
TR6060
BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks
Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials
10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile


BiggFoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 02:48 PM   #796
BiggFoot

 
BiggFoot's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,391
It has been a while (haven't posted since 11/19/2018) so I suppose an update is in order. The shop made all of the repairs from the last belt incident back in Nov-2018 and we pulled the F-1X suction limiter so I could get a feel for the extra power on the street before I take it back to the track. Unfortunately, now I pretty much blow through 1st and 2nd gears due to spinning and finally in 3rd it bites and takes off, but man does it ever take off!! If I was going to street race then I would put the suction limiter back in because it responds to the 925 HP on the street much better than the 1050 HP (until I hit 3rd).

Fast forward to March 13, 2019 . . . I still haven't been back to the track to make some runs with the limiter out, but I am mulling it over. A friend of mine came down from Tennessee and wanted a ride so out we go. I pound 3rd and it bites so I ride it out to red line and right as I shift to 4th I noticed the power fell off so I let off and look in the rear view mirror to see a huge plume of white/blue smoke pouring out the back. I slowed down and the engine seemed to be running fine but the smoke was still belching out the back so I saw a good place to pull over and did. We popped the hood and the entire engine bay was covered with fluid, which we thought was brake fluid but turns out it was transmission fluid. The ProCharger belt had split almost in two horizontally making it half as wide a usual, but the problem with this type of failure is that instead of just breaking in two which would typically limit any damage, the shredded part of the belt kept whipping around since the good part of the belt was still attached. It found a small transmission cooler line to the bottom of the radiator and sliced it in two. All of the smoke I was seeing out the back was transmission fluid being vaporized on the right side header.

I finally got the Camaro back to G-Force Motorsports and they got it all put back whole again. They made a decision to "hot loop" the transmission cooler line back into the transmission instead of sending it through the radiator with the thinking that the manual doesn't need the cooler. Guess we will see.

One other change made which I am hoping will really help is that one idler pulley on the ProCharger belt loop that did not have deep lips front and back was changed out with an idler pulley with deep lips on the front and back. I hope this will keep the belt tracking properly at all times.

Following repairs I sent the car to my detail guy and he had to clean the bay 4 times before getting all of the transmission fluid off, plus it was all under the right side of the car too. What a mess! Hopefully we nipped that from ever happening again.

Now the Camaro is at Demondtrond Chevy to have two small hood pops fixed and a couple of small dings here and there repaired, then I am back in business again hopefully by next week.

I am hesitant to consider a 10 or 12 rib set up for a couple of reasons:

1. It would put more strain on the stock crank
2. I love the whine of the cog drive - And so do does everyone else!!

If/when I make it back to the track I will let you know how it goes. I was told that my trap speed of 143 mph, with a decent take off in the 1.40 range I should be in the 9.65 - 9.85 ET range by those that know a lot more about track stuff than me.
__________________
F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi
Blower Cam
Brodix BP BR 3 Heads
Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust
Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion

DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears
McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave
RPM Level VII
TR6060
BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks
Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials
10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile



Last edited by BiggFoot; 04-05-2019 at 06:40 AM.
BiggFoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 03:25 PM   #797
1911 1LE
 
Drives: 2015 SW 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: 78155
Posts: 308
Well, that could have turned out really bad. Glad to hear it was only minor damage and a lot of clean up. You need to get that thing on the track before it gets to hot.
__________________
Maggie 2650 @ 18psi/ 75mm 10 rib/ Dual alky nozzles/ Roto-fab/ ARH 2" Lt's/ GT-12 cam/ ZL1 3.23 Conv./MGW/RPS triple carbon clutch/RSG tranny upgrage/Pedders Ex. XA w/ remote cans and a lot of other crap 897/8??@tires
1911 1LE is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 05:23 PM   #798
stevieturbo

 
Drives: it changes
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 1,126
I went through all this shit with mine too. ( DIY LS setup years ago ) I had belts strip and eat wiring...causing a short which almost led to a fire.

Initially I then re-routed everything at risk away from the belt path, or shielded it etc. Although you just never knew when it would eat a belt.

I will still say a good 12 rib setup with a damn strong spring tensioner is the way to go. I did finally get mine working superbly with this...but by that stage I'd already made the decision to go turbo.

But I struggled ( and had a lot of success too ) with various ribbed setups and manual tensioners, crank braces etc etc then I tried cogs, then back to ribbed...but only at the end was I able to get a tensioner setup ( and bracket adjustments ) I was happy with. And it did work faultlessly and no need to apply huge tension to the belt, as I always did with the manual tensioner.

Or if you were to go nuts with custom stuff.....a 50m cog is closer to a 14 rib in terms of width. Although belts will get harder to source for a 14 rib.
Still not sure how reliable a pair of belts would or could be...ie a pair of 7 ribs which may be easier to source.
stevieturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.