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ZL155 · 12-02-2014, 07:36 AM

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ZL155 · 12-02-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by big dave

I'm not looking for praise, I'm just posting what the car ran and what it took to get there. We all know how bad these tires are when it's cold. Believe me, it isn't that easy when working with as much torque as this car has. This car is severely traction limited which is why using the best combination of burn-out, tire pressure, and launch technique is important.

I would be willing to bet that these same procedures would work with the manuals and we would probably start seeing them run in the 11s stock.

Thanks for the detailed reply.. again great run!

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Stephen12ZL1 · 12-02-2014, 08:25 AM

If "many people" could duplicate big dave's times, they would be doing it. Obviously, you haven't been to the track to see how difficult it is to make these cars hook on the stock Goodyears. He is a mentor(trusted adviser)...what's the big deal? Yes, I am the "one guy", but there was no need for such a sarcastic comment. I just wanted to give you some insight.

ZL155 · 12-02-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

If "many people" could duplicate big dave's times, they would be doing it. Obviously, you haven't been to the track to see how difficult it is to make these cars hook on the stock Goodyears. He is a mentor(trusted adviser)...what's the big deal? Yes, I am the "one guy", but there was no need for such a sarcastic comment. I just wanted to give you some insight.

Don't assume anything when you know nothing about me, if I track my car or do not. My question was not for you. It was for the poster who had no problem with my question. It is you who took offense to it. So yes there is always that ''one guy'', which appears to be you. All I can say is thank God for the ignore feature this site offers.
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DRKS1D3 · 12-02-2014, 09:11 AM

11.5 second bone stock. Great job!

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-02-2014, 09:51 AM

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Don't assume anything when you know nothing about me, if I track my car or do not. My question was not for you. It was for the poster who had no problem with my question. It is you who took offense to it. So yes there is always that ''one guy'', which appears to be you. All I can say is thank God for the ignore feature this site offers.
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Forum etiquette should dictate how a post is made. I felt like your initial post was not giving the OP proper respect. Your second statement on your initial post was not necessary. You should have stopped after you stated that, "Computer shifts for ya, no?" I am the "one guy" to call you out on an unnecessary statement and that is it. Please don't take this the wrong way.

jessrayo · 12-02-2014, 10:06 AM

Great stuff Dave! I have only been drag racing a couple years and I figured out that no matter what tire you are using, it won't hurt your 60 ft to smoke the tires a little longer in the burnout box.

And I always get a chuckle when people say how hard can it be to pin the throttle and count to 10 or 11 or whatever. I never matched big daves time running stock tires even though I had 800+ whp. That is an impressive run. You have got it together.

jon6.0 · 12-02-2014, 10:12 AM

1.68 60ft is better than some people can do on drag radials. Impressive as heck if you ask me. Most can't crack 2.0 on stock tires. My old GTO would do 1.55's on Hoosier drag radials and that was with a 5200rpm stall leaving off idle. Only 420rwhp and did 11.50's in 2000ft DA. Not bad for 4000lb raceweight.

big dave · 12-02-2014, 05:50 PM

Thanks alot for the replies fellas. I'm only trying to share my experiences and, hopefully, help you guys along in the process the way someone else helped me. I understand very few of us actually race our cars, but for those who do, you'll find that every little detail you pay attention to will help you in extracting the most out of your cars.

Stephen12ZL1 · 12-02-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by big dave

Thanks alot for the replies fellas. I'm only trying to share my experiences and, hopefully, help you guys along in the process the way someone else helped me. I understand very few of us actually race our cars, but for those who do, you'll find that every little detail you pay attention to will help you in extracting the most out of your cars.

That's right Dave. Well said.

Mutant Racer · 12-02-2014, 06:11 PM

Holy crap dave! Some of you guys can ****ing drive! Those are killer times.

Love the advice and will keep it in mind.

hotlap · 12-02-2014, 07:44 PM

Dave's runs have motivated me to spend time trying to master my car 100% stock before moving ahead with mods. Two trips to the track with my manual and I couldn't get my 60' below 2s. Being fast stock is as cool as 10s with mods. It now seems like a waste to rush past that phase.

Good stuff Dave! How many passes have you made on the first tires?

big dave · 12-02-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Dave's runs have motivated me to spend time trying to master my car 100% stock before moving ahead with mods. Two trips to the track with my manual and I couldn't get my 60' below 2s. Being fast stock is as cool as 10s with mods. It now seems like a waste to rush past that phase.

Good stuff Dave! How many passes have you made on the first tires?

Good luck to you, I believe in trying to extract every last ounce before modding. If mine was a manual, my goal would be trying to be the first in the 11s stock. I haven't seen anywhere where someone has done it. I'm still on my original tires, I'm sure I have well over 100 passes...could be 200

big dave · 12-06-2014, 10:15 PM

Here's a video of the pass thanks to my buddy who always seems to be there with the camera when I run new bests

http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA

12-02-2014, 08:25 AM	#17
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	If "many people" could duplicate big dave's times, they would be doing it. Obviously, you haven't been to the track to see how difficult it is to make these cars hook on the stock Goodyears. He is a mentor(trusted adviser)...what's the big deal? Yes, I am the "one guy", but there was no need for such a sarcastic comment. I just wanted to give you some insight. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

12-02-2014, 09:11 AM	#19
DRKS1D3 Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,748	11.5 second bone stock. Great job! __________________ MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO, MGW SHORT-THROW SHIFTER SOLD2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866--BLACK, 6 SPEED MANUAL, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE "Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".

12-02-2014, 10:06 AM	#21
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	Great stuff Dave! I have only been drag racing a couple years and I figured out that no matter what tire you are using, it won't hurt your 60 ft to smoke the tires a little longer in the burnout box. And I always get a chuckle when people say how hard can it be to pin the throttle and count to 10 or 11 or whatever. I never matched big daves time running stock tires even though I had 800+ whp. That is an impressive run. You have got it together. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

12-02-2014, 10:12 AM	#22
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	1.68 60ft is better than some people can do on drag radials. Impressive as heck if you ask me. Most can't crack 2.0 on stock tires. My old GTO would do 1.55's on Hoosier drag radials and that was with a 5200rpm stall leaving off idle. Only 420rwhp and did 11.50's in 2000ft DA. Not bad for 4000lb raceweight. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

12-02-2014, 05:50 PM	#23
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	Thanks alot for the replies fellas. I'm only trying to share my experiences and, hopefully, help you guys along in the process the way someone else helped me. I understand very few of us actually race our cars, but for those who do, you'll find that every little detail you pay attention to will help you in extracting the most out of your cars. __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab

12-02-2014, 07:36 AM	#15
ZL155 Banned Drives: 13' ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NY Posts: 311	Always one guy. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

12-02-2014, 06:11 PM	#25
Mutant Racer Drives: 2015 2LT Torch Red C7 Stingray Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,807 View My Garage	Holy crap dave! Some of you guys can ****ing drive! Those are killer times. Love the advice and will keep it in mind.

12-02-2014, 07:44 PM	#26
hotlap Drives: 20 1LE 2SS M6 Rally Green Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Franklin WI Posts: 6,632	Dave's runs have motivated me to spend time trying to master my car 100% stock before moving ahead with mods. Two trips to the track with my manual and I couldn't get my 60' below 2s. Being fast stock is as cool as 10s with mods. It now seems like a waste to rush past that phase. Good stuff Dave! How many passes have you made on the first tires? __________________ "the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Ronald Reagan -

12-06-2014, 10:15 PM	#28
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	Here's a video of the pass thanks to my buddy who always seems to be there with the camera when I run new bests http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab