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BIG NASST · 09-19-2020, 09:54 PM

What would be the best injectors and fuel pump to get .

BIG NASST · 09-19-2020, 09:56 PM

I can run E85 100% of the time. fic 127#is this injector?

RupertPupkin · 09-19-2020, 10:10 PM

You dont need a blower cam. My cam is an NA cam, and it’s perfect for my setup. And yes you can run e85 all the time. That’s what I do, but I have an option to do 93 also

fireman1153 · 09-20-2020, 09:19 AM

You are describing pretty much exactly my build. Take a look in my signature and see what I've done. I still need bigger fuel lines and will probably upgrade the fuel pumps again. I am running the BTR stage 3 blower cam and did lose a little chop over the N/A cam but not a lot. The car still sounds nasty as hell. With 1000hp, why wouldn't it. Anyway, if you want it reliable, you will definitely be looking into forging the rotating assembly and beefing up the drivetrain. I have probably between 8-10k in just drivetrain mods to be able to use the HP the F1A-94 provides.

BIG NASST · 09-20-2020, 09:30 PM

May I start with new injectors and fuel Pump and e85 conversion? I assume returned? Or do I wait a do everything at once

RupertPupkin · 09-20-2020, 09:42 PM

I would suggest reading through the Forced Induction section. A lot of good threads. It’ll steer you to the right direction.

BIG NASST · 09-21-2020, 03:53 AM

Right now I'm working 72 hrs a week. Which doesn't include the hour and a half before and after prep and travel. So yes I could spend the time researching,or I can ask the kind people on here to help me with the short version please. So I ask again, can I start with feul system upgrades or do I do it all at once?

CamaroDreams76 · 09-21-2020, 07:39 AM

Fore innovations makes a good kit. Not sure what feed and return you will need. AGP turbo also sells a kit which I hear is the same thing as the Fore. Injectors I have no idea how much you will need to support that. Popular brands I know are FIC (Fuel injector Clinic) and Deatschwerks. You can do your build all at the same time if you so choose.

Im sure you can email or call a reputable shop and or a forum sponsor and tell them your goals and build plans and they can recommend the fuel system and injector size. The sponsors I have dealt with on the site were extremely helpful and answered all my questions.

fireman1153 · 09-21-2020, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG NASST

May I start with new injectors and fuel Pump and e85 conversion? I assume returned? Or do I wait a do everything at once

I did what you're thinking and only added the DSX Aux pump, injectors and flex fuel sensor. I am making just under 1k whp with that set up. It is not a return at the moment either. The problem is that it is maxed out and with my mods, I had to have it tuned fairly safe to keep from having fuel issues. The problem with doing it this way is that I now have $1500-$2000 worth of work to do to my fuel system to get it where it needs to be. For example, bigger lines, bigger rails, and adding return lines. If I had to do it over again, I would have done it all at once and saved the headache of still needing to get in and do more. The short answer is that it will work, but it's not ideal.

Warship2k15 · 09-21-2020, 09:02 AM

Ok you can do the fuel system any time you want.
If changing the injectors you will def need a tune.
My advice is to do the fuel system when you put the supercharger on.
That way you only pay for one tune instead of several.Keep that 400-600 extra dollars to put towards something else.

I would also recommend installing a sensor that can tell the difference between e85 and regular gasoline.There are multiple kits to do this so you wouldn’t have to piece it together.

Greenhornet2 · 09-21-2020, 10:21 AM

If you want to run E85 I would go right out of the gate with a triple setup. Injectors you should talk to whoever is tuning and see what injectors they like to tune. Jannetty likes ID's. No need to change the cam. I'm on the SBE that all in the tune, but anything over 700 there are possibilities of problems. A lot push them to around 800WHP and even a little more with good tunes.

eLeSthree · 09-21-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fireman1153

I did what you're thinking and only added the DSX Aux pump, injectors and flex fuel sensor. I am making just under 1k whp with that set up. It is not a return at the moment either. The problem is that it is maxed out and with my mods, I had to have it tuned fairly safe to keep from having fuel issues. The problem with doing it this way is that I now have $1500-$2000 worth of work to do to my fuel system to get it where it needs to be. For example, bigger lines, bigger rails, and adding return lines. If I had to do it over again, I would have done it all at once and saved the headache of still needing to get in and do more. The short answer is that it will work, but it's not ideal.

Same thing I did. I'm surprised you got that much out of that pump. I'm guessing that's due to those massive injectors. Nice setup btw. I'm trying to get there without meth.

RupertPupkin · 09-22-2020, 07:00 AM

Or work 71 hrs a week, and look. Lol

BIG NASST · 09-22-2020, 08:27 AM

Wish I could forced overtime. Which is about to get bumped up to 84 hours a week in the last quarter. So I'll just stick to asking the kind people in here for help I'm sure the same questions don't get asked over and over and over in these forums. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to sit down and stroll through

09-19-2020, 10:10 PM	#17
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,596	You dont need a blower cam. My cam is an NA cam, and it’s perfect for my setup. And yes you can run e85 all the time. That’s what I do, but I have an option to do 93 also __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

09-20-2020, 09:19 AM	#18
fireman1153 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 82	You are describing pretty much exactly my build. Take a look in my signature and see what I've done. I still need bigger fuel lines and will probably upgrade the fuel pumps again. I am running the BTR stage 3 blower cam and did lose a little chop over the N/A cam but not a lot. The car still sounds nasty as hell. With 1000hp, why wouldn't it. Anyway, if you want it reliable, you will definitely be looking into forging the rotating assembly and beefing up the drivetrain. I have probably between 8-10k in just drivetrain mods to be able to use the HP the F1A-94 provides. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS - 416 stroker, F1A-94 procharger, BTR blower cam, Big Red race valve, AGP intercooler, Alky dual nozzle kit, ZL1 fuel pump with DSX Aux pump, DSX flex fuel sensor, Bosch 210 injectors, Mcleod RXT1200 clutch, MGW flat stick, Tick Performance Level 3 trans, DSS 3.5 aluminum driveshaft, Strange S60 rear, DSS 1400hp axles, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, X-pipe and MBRP muffler delete, BMR lowering springs, BMR trailing arms and toe rods, Poly motor mounts, RevShift trans mount instert, rear sub frame braces, Tuned by Joey at Pure Fabrication in Panama City, FL

09-20-2020, 09:42 PM	#20
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,596	I would suggest reading through the Forced Induction section. A lot of good threads. It’ll steer you to the right direction. __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

09-21-2020, 07:39 AM	#22
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,078 View My Garage	Fore innovations makes a good kit. Not sure what feed and return you will need. AGP turbo also sells a kit which I hear is the same thing as the Fore. Injectors I have no idea how much you will need to support that. Popular brands I know are FIC (Fuel injector Clinic) and Deatschwerks. You can do your build all at the same time if you so choose. Im sure you can email or call a reputable shop and or a forum sponsor and tell them your goals and build plans and they can recommend the fuel system and injector size. The sponsors I have dealt with on the site were extremely helpful and answered all my questions. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

09-21-2020, 10:21 AM	#25
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	If you want to run E85 I would go right out of the gate with a triple setup. Injectors you should talk to whoever is tuning and see what injectors they like to tune. Jannetty likes ID's. No need to change the cam. I'm on the SBE that all in the tune, but anything over 700 there are possibilities of problems. A lot push them to around 800WHP and even a little more with good tunes. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

09-19-2020, 09:54 PM	#15
BIG NASST Drives: 2013 2ss hotwheels Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: iowa Posts: 270	What would be the best injectors and fuel pump to get .

09-19-2020, 09:56 PM	#16
BIG NASST Drives: 2013 2ss hotwheels Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: iowa Posts: 270	I can run E85 100% of the time. fic 127#is this injector?

09-20-2020, 09:30 PM	#19
BIG NASST Drives: 2013 2ss hotwheels Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: iowa Posts: 270	May I start with new injectors and fuel Pump and e85 conversion? I assume returned? Or do I wait a do everything at once

09-21-2020, 03:53 AM	#21
BIG NASST Drives: 2013 2ss hotwheels Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: iowa Posts: 270	Right now I'm working 72 hrs a week. Which doesn't include the hour and a half before and after prep and travel. So yes I could spend the time researching,or I can ask the kind people on here to help me with the short version please. So I ask again, can I start with feul system upgrades or do I do it all at once?

09-21-2020, 09:02 AM	#24
Warship2k15 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Kissimmee Posts: 158	Ok you can do the fuel system any time you want. If changing the injectors you will def need a tune. My advice is to do the fuel system when you put the supercharger on. That way you only pay for one tune instead of several.Keep that 400-600 extra dollars to put towards something else. I would also recommend installing a sensor that can tell the difference between e85 and regular gasoline.There are multiple kits to do this so you wouldn’t have to piece it together.

09-22-2020, 07:00 AM	#27
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,596	Or work 71 hrs a week, and look. Lol __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

09-22-2020, 08:27 AM	#28
BIG NASST Drives: 2013 2ss hotwheels Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: iowa Posts: 270	Wish I could forced overtime. Which is about to get bumped up to 84 hours a week in the last quarter. So I'll just stick to asking the kind people in here for help I'm sure the same questions don't get asked over and over and over in these forums. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to sit down and stroll through