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Old 11-15-2011, 11:30 AM   #183
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Add to the whole scenario the possibility of a supercharged 392 Dodge Challenger within the next couple years and the horsepower wars are really on. While it is still rumor, the new Charger SRT8 has its "Performance Pages" on the head unit that display a whole bunch of performance data and one of the "unused" gauges right now is "boost". Possibly some insight into the future.

Either way, the big three playing one-up of each other is only good news for all of us.

What was the most appealing part of the ZL1 for me at the time I was considering it was the fact that it was built for the abuse of taking it to the track and comes with a 5yr/100k warranty. I think that speaks volumes to what GM has put into this car to back it with that type of warranty understanding the abuse this car may take from some owners.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:32 AM   #184
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Rolling start is usually slower..
Are you sure? Inertia and all...
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:37 AM   #185
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Pre tax - real price, no options (exception 6 speed auto)

Manual
$54,995 + GGT $1300.00 = $56,255

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$54,995 + GGT $2600.00 + 6 Speed Auto + $1185.00 = $57,740.00

So nearly $58K for the auto (pre tax).
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:37 AM   #186
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not liking the rolling start
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:39 AM   #187
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Hopefully they provide some real 0-60 and 1/4 mile data. Rolling start? No such thing.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:42 AM   #188
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I really think they are being modest with the times seriously, im sure this will put out good numbers when magazines and testers get their hands on it.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:46 AM   #189
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The auto beats out the manual in every category...


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it also says from a rolling start? hmm
Hard to compare like that.

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I was close at 52k, that's still doable if it was over 55 I would of backed out, i kept telling people over 60k out the door.
It'll be over 60k out the door. And early on, even higher for many.

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Yes, but that is why I say that it really does not state that but with the numbers this motor is putting out, it should be in the 11's.
Not necessarily. I prefer advertised times that aren't next to impossible for a mid grade driver.

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Average house payment in the USA - 1687, Payment for this car over 36 months 1775.


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How's your magnetic ride?
Hows your stock ride height?

Good set of dual dampening coilovers can be better than MR. Of course if you're not a pro driver you'll never notice the diff.

I'd prefer to be able to lower my car a bit. Which you can't do with a ZL1 unless you siconect the MR.

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What a cheap shot lol.......
I didn't see the point.

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I might be able to make your job easier.

The 2012 Camaro just aced the new tougher crash safety testing (top score all all 6 test) and its currently the only car on the market that has aced the new test (out of something like 49 cars tested).

You need a 2012 Camaro because you care about the safety of your kids obviously.


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This was the greatest email I had in my inbox this morning. $54k is a bargin! I do wish i was in the market to upgrade. If only I didnt love my SS so much.
I'd like the option to piece it down if I were gonna buy one. But it seems to be priced fairly.

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So when are you having your Magnetic Ride Suspension installed?
Supercars would be easily sufficient. Again, I'll enjoy my lowered ride AND a great suspension. You can't lower yours. And you may not want to but I like the option and I think it would look much better lowered. jmo

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OK now I'm freaked out haha...

Posted by me on 24th October in another thread...
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In an auto car with some tuning, the car will run low 11's with sticky tires.
No it won't. I bet it'll take more than that.

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I'm curious if the auto will have AFM.
Gas Guzzler tax tells me no.

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You'd also be wrong. The 650 HP is coming on the 2013 GT500. Have to wait and see what GM is going to do for 2013.
Being less than a year of a full 2012 run I'm guessing nothing.
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Taken from the chief tester at Edmonds.

On the other hand, the use of rollout with 0-60 times is inappropriate in our view. For one, 0-60-mph acceleration is not a drag-racing convention. More important, it's called ZERO to 60 mph, not 3 or 4 mph to 60 mph, which is what you get when you apply rollout. While it is tempting to use rollout in order to make 0-60 acceleration look more impressive by 0.3 second, thereby hyping both the car's performance and the apparent skill of the test driver, we think it's cheating.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:49 AM   #191
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Pre tax - real price, no options (exception 6 speed auto)

Manual
$54,995 + GGT $1300.00 = $56,255

Auto
$54,995 + GGT $2600.00 + 6 Speed Auto + $1185.00 = $57,740.00

So nearly $58K for the auto (pre tax).
Good point. Might as well add it in.

To me...... even if I had no Camaro it's too rich for my blood. I'd buy an SS and fix it up from there. I'd be missing some interior bells and whistles and the MR but neither would make a difference to me. In fact, if I could buy a ZL1 I'd disconnect the MR anyway so I could lower the car.

Gonna be a bas ass car for those with the cake to afford it though.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:57 AM   #192
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Those times are from a rolling start! WHAT????? A current GT500 can do those times now. I am very disappointed to say the least.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:05 PM   #193
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I guessed $55k. $5 off the actual price, not bad.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:07 PM   #194
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Is it 54,995 or 54,095?
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:09 PM   #195
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Is it 54,995 or 54,095?
$54,095 + $900 destination charge = the $54,995 everyone keeps mentioning.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:16 PM   #196
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These are indeed great numbers all the way around. Now, where's my checkbook...
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