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ghosted · 01-05-2016, 07:01 PM

What fluids are you guys using in your Aisin AY6? (and yes, I used the search function to no avail)

Aisin-Warner recommends GL-5 75w-90 gear oil:

Quote:

Manual Transmission Fluid
GL-5 SAE 75W-90
GM P/N 88862475 (Canadian P/N 88862476)

So I started looking around.

Torco states that it's excellent for use in transmissions.
Royal Purple seems to be a good choice, as it doesn't mention any conflicts or additives to this effect.
Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube has a Limited Slip additive that makes me hesitant.
Lucas recommends it for Limited Slip Differentials, but no comments on Transmissions.
Driven states that it's intended for Differentials, no word on transmissions.
Amsoil only offers Diesel-formulated Severe and Long Life gear oils.
Redline states: Not for use in most manual transmissions with synchronizers, as slipperiness may cause gear clash.

Edit: Also, here's some good information for the Aisin-Warner AY6:

http://www.anxa.de/camaro2010/werkst...rans%20ay6.pdf

JMT · 01-05-2016, 07:10 PM

I use royal purple

Andy-AMSOIL · 01-05-2016, 07:47 PM

Our GL 5 oils are not only for trucks.. i have been using them and selling them for years to the automotive industry with great success

ghosted · 01-05-2016, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy-AMSOIL

Our GL 5 oils are not only for trucks.. i have been using them and selling them for years to the automotive industry with great success

Hey I was just reading my preferred customer literature.

Judging by the specs for the GL-5 though, it doesn't seem to be formulated in the same way as other high performance GL-5 alternatives. It seems to be geared (no pun intended) towards longevity and protection as opposed to performance.

crazy4camaro · 01-08-2016, 08:46 PM

Changed to Royal purple at approx 7500 miles

That_old_guy · 01-08-2016, 11:46 PM

im running mobil 1, changed it after the 1500 mile break in, ive got 8500 miles on it now, shifts much smoother than the factory fill.

snymat68 · 01-12-2016, 02:34 PM

I run the Royal Purple 75w-90. Here's a reply to an email I sent to them back in 2013. (I was looking at their "Synchromax" at the time. They steered me straight.) It's been running smooth ever since, but is still a little catchy when cold.

...

Good Afternoon,

According to the owner’s manual (page 11-13) of the 2013 Camaro Coupe the part number 88862475 is a GL-5 75W-90 fluid. So our Synchromax (part #01512, quart bottle) would not be the recommended fluid for your transmission. Synchromax is what we recommend for the Tremec 6-speed in the SS.

The Aisin 6-Speed only comes with the V-6 engine. We recommend Royal Purple Max Gear 75W-90 (part #01300, quart bottle) and it meets warranty requirements for this transmission.

Listed below is a link with more information about our Max Gear product.

http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/product-categories/automotive/#!max-gear

Thank you for choosing Royal Purple, and have a great day!

Best Regards,

Cody Bartkowiak
Automotive, Technical Support

shibbs · 01-12-2016, 04:35 PM

I used to have the occasional grind/bind into second.

Brought it to the dealership, had them change the fluid with the stock stuff and I've never had another problem since.

ghosted · 01-12-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by snymat68

I run the Royal Purple 75w-90. Here's a reply to an email I sent to them back in 2013. (I was looking at their "Synchromax" at the time. They steered me straight.) It's been running smooth ever since, but is still a little catchy when cold.

...

Good Afternoon,

According to the owner’s manual (page 11-13) of the 2013 Camaro Coupe the part number 88862475 is a GL-5 75W-90 fluid. So our Synchromax (part #01512, quart bottle) would not be the recommended fluid for your transmission. Synchromax is what we recommend for the Tremec 6-speed in the SS.

The Aisin 6-Speed only comes with the V-6 engine. We recommend Royal Purple Max Gear 75W-90 (part #01300, quart bottle) and it meets warranty requirements for this transmission.

Listed below is a link with more information about our Max Gear product.

http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/product-categories/automotive/#!max-gear

Thank you for choosing Royal Purple, and have a great day!

Best Regards,

Cody Bartkowiak
Automotive, Technical Support

Thanks for this!

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Originally Posted by shibbs

I used to have the occasional grind/bind into second.

Brought it to the dealership, had them change the fluid with the stock stuff and I've never had another problem since.

Interesting, must have just been that the factory fill was dirty/contaminated.

Vroom_vroom · 01-16-2016, 05:21 AM

Have tried half of your list. Just buy some schaffers 75/90 shifts better than anything else I have found

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ghosted · 01-16-2016, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vroom_vroom

Have tried half of your list. Just buy some schaffers 75/90 shifts better than anything else I have found

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I'll look into it, thanks!

ForgedReality · 02-06-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ghosted

Redline states: Not for use in most manual transmissions with synchronizers, as slipperiness may cause gear clash.

You're creating conflicting information here. Redline is fine. You're seeing that on the one you use for the rear differential. The back of the bottle of the SAE 75W90 says that, as well as "Contains additive for limited-slip differentials" and "Recommended for API GL-5, GL-6 and MIL-L-2105E". That one is for use in the diff.

The other redline you can use in your tranny is the D4 ATF "automatic/manual transmission/transaxle fluid". That one carries no such warning. It complies with Dexron III as well as other specifications.

ghosted · 02-06-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForgedReality

You're creating conflicting information here. Redline is fine. You're seeing that on the one you use for the rear differential. The back of the bottle of the SAE 75W90 says that, as well as "Contains additive for limited-slip differentials" and "Recommended for API GL-5, GL-6 and MIL-L-2105E". That one is for use in the diff.

The other redline you can use in your tranny is the D4 ATF "automatic/manual transmission/transaxle fluid". That one carries no such warning. It complies with Dexron III as well as other specifications.

I'm not creating anything, that's straight from redline in regards to their 75w90. And considering our transmissions do already suffer from gear clash for some people, I feel like this is a pretty sensitive area.

Pete M · 02-06-2016, 07:08 PM

I just changed mine to Amsoil Severe Gear 75W-90 yesterday.
Shifting SO smooth today!
Changed put the reaf diff with the same stuff..
$15 per quart, great stuff!

01-12-2016, 02:34 PM	#7
snymat68 Drives: 2013 Blue Ray 1LS M6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,227 View My Garage	I run the Royal Purple 75w-90. Here's a reply to an email I sent to them back in 2013. (I was looking at their "Synchromax" at the time. They steered me straight.) It's been running smooth ever since, but is still a little catchy when cold. ... Good Afternoon, According to the owner’s manual (page 11-13) of the 2013 Camaro Coupe the part number 88862475 is a GL-5 75W-90 fluid. So our Synchromax (part #01512, quart bottle) would not be the recommended fluid for your transmission. Synchromax is what we recommend for the Tremec 6-speed in the SS. The Aisin 6-Speed only comes with the V-6 engine. We recommend Royal Purple Max Gear 75W-90 (part #01300, quart bottle) and it meets warranty requirements for this transmission. Listed below is a link with more information about our Max Gear product. http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/product-categories/automotive/#!max-gear Thank you for choosing Royal Purple, and have a great day! Best Regards, Cody Bartkowiak Automotive, Technical Support __________________ Performance Mods Elite Catch Can \| CAI Intake with Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| MRT v2 Axle-Back Exhaust \| MagnaFlow Resonated X-Pipe \| Resonator Delete \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| GM Strut Tower Brace \| JDP Tow Hook \| Vitesse Throttle Controller Aesthetic Mods Chrome Peek-A-Boo Door Handles \| Interior Accessories Kit \| OEM RS HIDs w/ 6000k Bulbs & 5000k LED Fogs \| Tail Light, Marker Light, & Turn Signal Tint \| Tru-Sequence Sequential Turn Signals & Brake Lights \| Silver Fade Gill Stripes \| Carbon Fiber Bowties \| Various Chrome/Painted/Carbon Fiber Items

01-16-2016, 05:21 AM	#10
Vroom_vroom The gritos pollo!!! Drives: Like a idiot Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,215 View My Garage	Have tried half of your list. Just buy some schaffers 75/90 shifts better than anything else I have found Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ______ If you don't stop how can they give you a ticket?-The Big Tuna___ '12 1Ls Camaro; Slp loud mouth I\|maganflow x-pipe\|Injen long ram intake\|brembo brake upgrade\| russell s.s. lines\|2LT polished 19's\|billet 5mm spacers\|tinted tail lights&markers\|pdmi\|billet c. can\| '13 Avenger R/T '77 T/A 6.6;, draining my wallet.

02-06-2016, 07:08 PM	#14
Pete M 9 Year USMC Vet Drives: 2014 1LT black on black Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Farmington, NC Posts: 730 View My Garage	I just changed mine to Amsoil Severe Gear 75W-90 yesterday. Shifting SO smooth today! Changed put the reaf diff with the same stuff.. $15 per quart, great stuff! __________________ A lot of stuff done so far to make it look better and be more fun to drive.....

01-05-2016, 07:10 PM	#2
JMT Drives: 2013 1LT Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Panama City Beach, FL Posts: 703 View My Garage	I use royal purple

01-05-2016, 07:47 PM	#3
Andy-AMSOIL Drives: bicycle Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Digging for oil Posts: 375	Our GL 5 oils are not only for trucks.. i have been using them and selling them for years to the automotive industry with great success

01-08-2016, 08:46 PM	#5
crazy4camaro Drives: 2012 RSLT,1979 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: IRB.Florida Posts: 291	Changed to Royal purple at approx 7500 miles

01-08-2016, 11:46 PM	#6
That_old_guy Drives: 2016 Jetta sport Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 61	im running mobil 1, changed it after the 1500 mile break in, ive got 8500 miles on it now, shifts much smoother than the factory fill.