GM's response to the 4 star crash test??? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Zedder · 08-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Has anyone heard anything regarding GM's response to the 4 star crash test results? Are changes in the works to improve this? Fbodfather, are you able to comment?

And before someone starts with the "if you want 5 stars, you can't be a true Camaro lover"...I've owned Camaros for longer than some of you have been alive! Have had at least 40 of them during the past 31 years and hope to own many more

, but I won't put my kids in a car that isn't 5 stars all around - that's just my choice. Money for a 2SS/RS sits in the bank...just need the stars now

GTAwheelman · 08-28-2009, 05:23 PM

...did not know 4 stars equaled death

patriotpa · 08-28-2009, 05:27 PM

Want a tank? Suburban!

fdjizm · 08-28-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAwheelman

...did not know 4 stars equaled death

but 800lbs of force transferred to your chest does.

CWI · 08-28-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patriotpa

Want a tank? Suburban!

PsyDoc · 08-28-2009, 05:29 PM

I do not know what GM would do differently. I bought a car in 2006 that had a 5-star rating without side-impact air bags. Toward the end of 2006 when the newer models came standard with side-impact air bags, my earlier model was lowered to 4-stars. Why? I do not know, perhaps the standards changed. In 2007, there was a pretty exhaustive study looking at crash test ratings and real-world safety. The one thing I remember about the findings was that cars geared toward hot rodders or younger drivers (e.g., sports cars) had higher fatality rates regardless of the crash test rating.

camarowa · 08-28-2009, 05:30 PM

buy your kids one of these and it will a 6* rating

tom692010 · 08-28-2009, 05:36 PM

I would think that ones view on safety shouldn't be mocked or questioned. If the guy wants 5 stars he wants 5 stars. His first part was a legiment question. his second comment was legit too. Obviously he knows how people get bashed oh this site. safety should be an area where anyone mocks or is criticial about.

ac223mal · 08-28-2009, 05:56 PM

I agree with the OP, stick to your guns! Saftey first, I have seen first hand the results of vehicles that have poor crash ratings and ones with good ratings. Often it's the difference between walking a way or taking a ride in an ambulance.

fastball · 08-28-2009, 06:05 PM

The OP has a legitimate right for his opinions. As much as we all love the Camaro, and I have no reason to think it's a death trap, with today's modern technology there is no reason this Camaro should get LESS than a 5 star rating all around when a flippin SMART can get a 4 star rating!

Yes, I am a little dissapointed in this as well. Of course, GM will eventually have some sort of press release explaining how, with their more stringent in house testing, they achieved the highest scores and find some glitch in the way the IIHC tests cars.

Zedder · 08-28-2009, 06:52 PM

Thanks for the support guys! I love the car, but I live in a big city with lots of idiot drivers and I want to keep my kids (and me and the wife too) as safe as possible! I'm sure GM will address this, but would love to hear something from them whether it be official or unofficial insider info...

Dan3 · 08-28-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdjizm

but 800lbs of force transferred to your chest does.

4 stars is still less than... 15% chance of severe injury? I don't remember the exact scale. Pretty sure 5 is under 10% and 4 is like 11%-15%
It's 4 stars were only on front-impact if I recall correctly. Most accidents tend to be side or rear impact, so in all reality your chance of sever injury in a Camaro is still very low.

Someone who knows will correct me I'm sure.

ttazzijr700 · 08-28-2009, 08:55 PM

.....just dont crash and u have nothing to worry about

JesseJames · 08-28-2009, 08:55 PM

Remember the car was part 5 stars, part 4 stars.. it was not all 4 stars

08-28-2009, 05:18 PM	#1
Zedder Drives: 40 plus Camaros and counting! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oakville Posts: 232	GM's response to the 4 star crash test??? Has anyone heard anything regarding GM's response to the 4 star crash test results? Are changes in the works to improve this? Fbodfather, are you able to comment? And before someone starts with the "if you want 5 stars, you can't be a true Camaro lover"...I've owned Camaros for longer than some of you have been alive! Have had at least 40 of them during the past 31 years and hope to own many more , but I won't put my kids in a car that isn't 5 stars all around - that's just my choice. Money for a 2SS/RS sits in the bank...just need the stars now __________________ Mark GM cancelled my 2012 ZL1 order

08-28-2009, 05:30 PM	#7
camarowa Drives: 2013 SVT Raptor, sold 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PNW....almost canada Posts: 1,907	buy your kids one of these and it will a 6* rating Attached Images

08-28-2009, 06:52 PM	#11
Zedder Drives: 40 plus Camaros and counting! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oakville Posts: 232	Thanks for the support guys! I love the car, but I live in a big city with lots of idiot drivers and I want to keep my kids (and me and the wife too) as safe as possible! I'm sure GM will address this, but would love to hear something from them whether it be official or unofficial insider info... __________________ Mark GM cancelled my 2012 ZL1 order

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08-28-2009, 05:23 PM	#2
GTAwheelman Drives: 1985 Camaro Sport Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: IL Posts: 188 View My Garage	...did not know 4 stars equaled death

08-28-2009, 05:27 PM	#3
patriotpa Account Suspended Drives: 02 Silverado, 09 Vue, 10 1SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tired of apologizing when we should be kickin' butt! Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	Want a tank? Suburban!

08-28-2009, 05:29 PM	#6
PsyDoc Drives: Soon-to-be 1st Gen Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southeast Posts: 249	I do not know what GM would do differently. I bought a car in 2006 that had a 5-star rating without side-impact air bags. Toward the end of 2006 when the newer models came standard with side-impact air bags, my earlier model was lowered to 4-stars. Why? I do not know, perhaps the standards changed. In 2007, there was a pretty exhaustive study looking at crash test ratings and real-world safety. The one thing I remember about the findings was that cars geared toward hot rodders or younger drivers (e.g., sports cars) had higher fatality rates regardless of the crash test rating.

08-28-2009, 05:36 PM	#8
tom692010 Account Suspended Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Here Posts: 1,404	I would think that ones view on safety shouldn't be mocked or questioned. If the guy wants 5 stars he wants 5 stars. His first part was a legiment question. his second comment was legit too. Obviously he knows how people get bashed oh this site. safety should be an area where anyone mocks or is criticial about.

08-28-2009, 05:56 PM	#9
ac223mal Drives: car Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: location Posts: 571 View My Garage	I agree with the OP, stick to your guns! Saftey first, I have seen first hand the results of vehicles that have poor crash ratings and ones with good ratings. Often it's the difference between walking a way or taking a ride in an ambulance.

08-28-2009, 06:05 PM	#10
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,372	The OP has a legitimate right for his opinions. As much as we all love the Camaro, and I have no reason to think it's a death trap, with today's modern technology there is no reason this Camaro should get LESS than a 5 star rating all around when a flippin SMART can get a 4 star rating! Yes, I am a little dissapointed in this as well. Of course, GM will eventually have some sort of press release explaining how, with their more stringent in house testing, they achieved the highest scores and find some glitch in the way the IIHC tests cars.

08-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#13
ttazzijr700 Drives: 2010 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 145	.....just dont crash and u have nothing to worry about

08-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#14
JesseJames Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 129	Remember the car was part 5 stars, part 4 stars.. it was not all 4 stars