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URBAN LEGEND · 03-27-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 69L48Z27

Went through the the local Ford dealer lot today and this was behind the fence. Tech Pak + stripes car for $58 sticker. Sitting outside, nice gloomy 45 degrees, damp. Rotors were already rusty. I haven't seen a Z/28 with rusty rotors yet.

Sharp car if your into Mustangs. Not for me tho...

Makes the Z/28 that can be had for $55-60k new look pretty impressive IMO.

No ADM? If yes then that's great news.

69L48Z27 · 03-27-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

No ADM? If yes then that's great news.

No idea, car was behind the fence and it looks like it just arrived. No dealer prep yet. Could have been ordered for someone too. Dealer has it on their site with no mark up.

From what I understand the tech pack cars are not good on the track, apparently they go into limp mode in a few laps from heat. You need the track pack if your going to track or race the car. I don't follow these for price or markup but maybe nobody want the tech pack cars?

Dealer website:
http://www.goappleford.com/mobile/Ne...PA/vd/34211939

razorz28 · 03-27-2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zslash28

Please share pics when you get the beast. a nose to nose shot of the cars would be kinda cool.

Let me guess, you got a black one?

Nope I Got Magnetic with Black strips. I ordered the Tech Pack as this is going to be my daily driver.

URBAN LEGEND · 03-27-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 69L48Z27

No idea, car was behind the fence and it looks like it just arrived. No dealer prep yet. Could have been ordered for someone too. Dealer has it on their site with no mark up.

From what I understand the tech pack cars are not good on the track, apparently they go into limp mode in a few laps from heat. You need the track pack if your going to track or race the car. I don't follow these for price or markup but maybe nobody want the tech pack cars?

Dealer website:
http://www.goappleford.com/mobile/Ne...PA/vd/34211939

I need the R though.

JUSTIFIED · 03-27-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I need the R though.

Good luck finding one anytime soon and w/out ridiculous markup.

URBAN LEGEND · 03-27-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JUSTIFIED

Good luck finding one anytime soon and w/out ridiculous markup.

I'll wait it out.

SlowMoe · 03-29-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by razorz28

Nope I Got Magnetic with Black strips. I ordered the Tech Pack as this is going to be my daily driver.

Razor, you didnt want to wait? 2017 GT350's have the track pack as standard. You can add the tech package and have the best of both worlds. For 2016 models you have to get the R to have your cake and eat it too, but as we all know apparently its almost impossible to get an R and if you do your spending well over sticker.

razorz28 · 03-29-2016, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowMoe

Razor, you didnt want to wait? 2017 GT350's have the track pack as standard. You can add the tech package and have the best of both worlds. For 2016 models you have to get the R to have your cake and eat it too, but as we all know apparently its almost impossible to get an R and if you do your spending well over sticker.

My Dealer has me on the list for a R for 2017. He doesnt realistically see me getting the 2017 until late fall. I wanted it for this summer, will trade it on an R.

RyanR3KC · 03-30-2016, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by exboss

ah the age old question. ford v chevy. funny nobody makes any mention of Dodge products. I think that speaks to itself.
my story is not unusual exactly a year ago I made a deal with bob moore ford in OK to buy the GT350R. as a customer buying many fleet trucks and having purchased both a boss 302 and a 302LS we agreed on a deal of buying both a 350 and a 350R. fast forward 9 months and the dealer realizes the frenzy is on and the money and greed become too much for them and they dump me on my face and wont return calls. they replace the manager and the new manager told me my deal died with the old manager. absolute bullshit! so I went out and bought a used 2015 Z/28 with 800 miles on it for less than a base GT350. I have driven both cars on the street. if you want a fabulous cable street car the mustang is far superior. but I am still happy with the Z and bought it to be a track car that is street legal. looking forward to the relationship this season.

after all the previously deals you made with them and this happens? I would never talk to them again.

URBAN LEGEND · 03-30-2016, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by razorz28

My Dealer has me on the list for a R for 2017. He doesnt realistically see me getting the 2017 until late fall. I wanted it for this summer, will trade it on an R.

You'll get it before. People talk a lot but when it's time to put pen to paper many back out for many reasons.

sh233252 · 03-30-2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

You'll get it before. People talk a lot but when it's time to put pen to paper many back out for many reasons.

A lot less allocated to Canada so I wouldn't be so sure on it here..

URBAN LEGEND · 03-30-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sh233252

A lot less allocated to Canada so I wouldn't be so sure on it here..

Ok. That's a whole different ballgame.

LS7 Apex · 03-30-2016, 01:24 PM

The 350R is the car to consider. I cannot doubt it is a blast to drive. As mentioned all the 350s with issues do not make the car worth grabbing over the Z28. Issues or not, markups aside, there are great aspects about all 350s. I do not feel the 350 warrants a markup at all. The 350R, sure... It is a bummer most Rs we will not see driven.

In a direct comparison of the R and Z28, no markups, unless the tech is a must for the buyer, the Z28 was not really outdone by the R. The real desire from the R is the lighter trans housing, specific tire developed, and some un-sprung weight. I do like the R being able to perform with additional comforts and technology.

Z28 debate of ring times and dry tracks, is a worthwhile debate. The R can compete, but with tires developed for it, aero differences, and other advantages, of course it can scoot by the Z28. Barely. Will the 2017 350s with some part swaps be the same car as the 350R, we will see. I doubt it.

I will take the Z28s electronic management (PTM) over the 350s. I do know the R has millimeter variances in the suspension components and believe the electronic management is probably more dialed in and competitive to the Z28. Exactly why any 350, not R, is a different comparison.

However, with minimal cost and changes to the Z28, 500+ whp can happen at less than MSRP of an R with tech. (Z28 for 60k assumed) Then assume R markups and a 76k Z28... again unless comforts are desired, the Z28 plus 5-10k in additional power, Z28 still is victorious for less than what it is to get in the R.

Only consider the GT350R if it is at MSRP, as the Z28 is a great platform and has the ability to keep up with newer developments. 350Rs, Zl1s, etc... Considerable and fantastic cars no matter what but tough to part with a Z28 if we are debating performance alone.

URBAN LEGEND · 03-30-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 247 Z28

The 350R is the car to consider. I cannot doubt it is a blast to drive. As mentioned all the 350s with issues do not make the car worth grabbing over the Z28. Issues or not, markups aside, there are great aspects about all 350s. I do not feel the 350 warrants a markup at all. The 350R, sure... It is a bummer most Rs we will not see driven.

In a direct comparison of the R and Z28, no markups, unless the tech is a must for the buyer, the Z28 was not really outdone by the R. The real desire from the R is the lighter trans housing, specific tire developed, and some un-sprung weight. I do like the R being able to perform with additional comforts and technology.

Z28 debate of ring times and dry tracks, is a worthwhile debate. The R can compete, but with tires developed for it, aero differences, and other advantages, of course it can scoot by the Z28. Barely. Will the 2017 350s with some part swaps be the same car as the 350R, we will see. I doubt it.

I will take the Z28s electronic management (PTM) over the 350s. I do know the R has millimeter variances in the suspension components and believe the electronic management is probably more dialed in and competitive to the Z28. Exactly why any 350, not R, is a different comparison.

However, with minimal cost and changes to the Z28, 500+ whp can happen at less than MSRP of an R with tech. (Z28 for 60k assumed) Then assume R markups and a 76k Z28... again unless comforts are desired, the Z28 plus 5-10k in additional power, Z28 still is victorious for less than what it is to get in the R.

Only consider the GT350R if it is at MSRP, as the Z28 is a great platform and has the ability to keep up with newer developments. 350Rs, Zl1s, etc... Considerable and fantastic cars no matter what but tough to part with a Z28 if we are debating performance alone.

You don't have to get rid of the Z/28. Just own both.

03-30-2016, 01:24 PM	#55
LS7 Apex Z/28 Drives: Z/28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Where the sidewalk ends Posts: 76	The 350R is the car to consider. I cannot doubt it is a blast to drive. As mentioned all the 350s with issues do not make the car worth grabbing over the Z28. Issues or not, markups aside, there are great aspects about all 350s. I do not feel the 350 warrants a markup at all. The 350R, sure... It is a bummer most Rs we will not see driven. In a direct comparison of the R and Z28, no markups, unless the tech is a must for the buyer, the Z28 was not really outdone by the R. The real desire from the R is the lighter trans housing, specific tire developed, and some un-sprung weight. I do like the R being able to perform with additional comforts and technology. Z28 debate of ring times and dry tracks, is a worthwhile debate. The R can compete, but with tires developed for it, aero differences, and other advantages, of course it can scoot by the Z28. Barely. Will the 2017 350s with some part swaps be the same car as the 350R, we will see. I doubt it. I will take the Z28s electronic management (PTM) over the 350s. I do know the R has millimeter variances in the suspension components and believe the electronic management is probably more dialed in and competitive to the Z28. Exactly why any 350, not R, is a different comparison. However, with minimal cost and changes to the Z28, 500+ whp can happen at less than MSRP of an R with tech. (Z28 for 60k assumed) Then assume R markups and a 76k Z28... again unless comforts are desired, the Z28 plus 5-10k in additional power, Z28 still is victorious for less than what it is to get in the R. Only consider the GT350R if it is at MSRP, as the Z28 is a great platform and has the ability to keep up with newer developments. 350Rs, Zl1s, etc... Considerable and fantastic cars no matter what but tough to part with a Z28 if we are debating performance alone.