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mike25 · 12-30-2010, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

what i dont understand is how the mustang driver or camaro driver didnt see the crown vic there. There wasnt anything blocking the view of the intersection. The Mustang and camaro were street racing and it seems the owners thought they could have (dangerously) swerved to avoid the vic and continue racing instead of slowing down or stopping.

I'd be willing to bet the mustang driver was too busy looking in the rearview, causing the last minute "WTF!" feeling that undoubtedly hit him. The camaro driver was probably watching the turning truck, and looked over to realize what was going on. They could t have been flying...because they didn't exactly rock past that white car. Speeding? Yes. Reckless- on the mustangs part most assuredly. In terms of the crown Vic- who had the right of way? Because to me it looks as if they just appear..and they were not moving so fast that you couldn't judge distance. The mustangs little flyby was just down right ridiculous all the way up to his ninja swerve, and the camaro shouldn't have exactly sped up...but the camaro was NOT the cause of the Rex. The blame her lies in the mustang and crown vic

SWAT 79 · 12-30-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mike25

I'd be willing to bet the mustang driver was too busy looking in the rearview, causing the last minute "WTF!" feeling that undoubtedly hit him. The camaro driver was probably watching the turning truck, and looked over to realize what was going on. They could t have been flying...because they didn't exactly rock past that white car. Speeding? Yes. Reckless- on the mustangs part most assuredly. In terms of the crown Vic- who had the right of way? Because to me it looks as if they just appear..and they were not moving so fast that you couldn't judge distance. The mustangs little flyby was just down right ridiculous all the way up to his ninja swerve, and the camaro shouldn't have exactly sped up...but the camaro was NOT the cause of the Rex. The blame her lies in the mustang and crown vic

Mhm, what a true un-biased repsonse. lol.

mike25 · 12-30-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Mhm, what a true un-biased repsonse. lol.

Lol it does sound biased towards the camaro. But, that's not the case and honestly how I see it

adamZ28 · 12-31-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_chef

listen carefully. the passenger says "you down to 2 right now?", after which the mustang does the fly by.

no one has explained why, if the two cars were going so ridiculously fast, the crown vic ran into the rear quarter panel of the stang.

and Blur, the camaro got up to redline in second gear and cruised from there. i dont know about the camaro but in my car second gear gets me to 60 mph. it would be reasonable to think that at the time of impact the camaro was going 45<x<60.

another thing to consider is were they leaving from a stoplight, or a light that was very recently red? if so the people on the road ahead of them could very well have still been accelerating to speed. this would explain why the camaro/mustang were going much faster than the cars at the beginning of the vid.

The passanger say "Round two right now" Driver says "yup" Listen about 11 seconds hes says Round two again. I had to listen to it about 100 time but im 100% sure thats what he said.

n2oSS · 01-01-2011, 07:26 AM

from video looks like race was over and mustang sped past doing what they said as a ricer fly by. By the time of the wreck, which i still can't really see do to the video quality, both were cruising and i couldnt tell for sure if they were speeding.

In this video i really cant even see the vic hit the mustang, it seems to just appear out of the whitewash after the mustang passed.camaro seemed to be the worst of the collision from the head on impact.

to chalk this up as a street racing gone wrong story though is kinda making a mountain out of a mole hill. that vic would of ruined someones day at even 30 or 40 mph. If you wanna use this as an "evil street racer" vid, i'de turn around and say this more shows how idiotic random drivers can be when they fail to yield or try to rush across oncoming traffic

SLOWHITE · 01-01-2011, 12:08 PM

Seems like everybody has their mind made up on who's fault it is and what not. But just think, if the Camaro and Mustang would have kept racing, they would have been ahead of the dumbass in the Crown Vic and avoided the whole thing, then the Crown vic would have pulled out in front of someone seemingly less deserving to be in an accident, then this ludicras arguement would never have happened. AND, I find it hard to believe there are people on this forum so against street racing and driving fast. I would think those people would be more comfortable on a Prius forum. Why would one buy a high performance vehicle and not "get on it" once in a while, after all, isn't that why GM makes Camaros, Ford makes Mustangs.....
I know my first comment may sound assinine, but, to me, no more so than a bunch of anti street racer/go fast people driving a Camaro.

Shadowsong · 01-04-2011, 12:42 PM

My post will probably echo a few others here,

But to me, it looks like the fault was all on the vic. Yes the camaro and mustang were speeding, but not racing (in my opinion). The camaro was in one gear the whole time, I heard the mustang shift, but he let off the throttle as soon as he did.

It's a little difficult to tell because of the whitewash due to poor camera skills, but it looks like the crown vic does not even attempt to stop, he just rolls right into the mustang...

In my opinion, it was the vic's fault.

08-G35s/6MT · 01-04-2011, 04:03 PM

Volvo's safety system wouldve seen the car pulling out ahead of time and saved the day and braked the car to a complete stop, darn they shouldv'e bought a Volvo...

RedJewel2SS · 01-04-2011, 04:52 PM

funny how the aftermath pics show a small tool box next to the car... i don't think that's going to help fix it

jhempsrt4 · 01-12-2011, 11:38 AM

It looks like if the street racers had taken it to the track, or at least a place with no traffic, it would have never happened. +1 for jail time. They earned it.

DieselNuts · 01-13-2011, 06:43 PM

This is retarded. That video was in no way, shape or form, "street racing". Yes, they were speeding, but not a display of racing.

I'd be pissed at my friend for not deleting the video though for sure.

spyderbuddy · 01-23-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mike25

I'd be willing to bet the mustang driver was too busy looking in the rearview, causing the last minute "WTF!" feeling that undoubtedly hit him. The camaro driver was probably watching the turning truck, and looked over to realize what was going on. They could t have been flying...because they didn't exactly rock past that white car. Speeding? Yes. Reckless- on the mustangs part most assuredly. In terms of the crown Vic- who had the right of way? Because to me it looks as if they just appear..and they were not moving so fast that you couldn't judge distance. The mustangs little flyby was just down right ridiculous all the way up to his ninja swerve, and the camaro shouldn't have exactly sped up...but the camaro was NOT the cause of the Rex. The blame her lies in the mustang and crown vic

From what i see, and I agree with you, it seems that they had started to slow down. Yes they we're still going way to fast, but the blame here should go to the vic driver.

What it sounds like to me from others is, I'm doing 65 in a 55 mph speed zone (10 mph What most officers give you) someone turns in front of me, I end up in an accident. So I'm in fault because the car that turned in front of me did not know I was speeding. I personly think they are very wrong. Those cars in the video didnt look like they we're going to much over 10mph.

LYCAN · 01-29-2011, 05:51 PM

This certainly wasn't the most hardcore street race by any stretch of the imagination, but it ended badly. People need to realize that when you are out screwing around in traffic, there are any number of things that can go down. When it does and the police arrive they are going to toss you and the other driver in the back of the crusier. The judge will exercise even less humor. Seriously though, don't get into races with people on the street. If you want to wind your car out a bit, you can, but not against another vehicle. Nobody is saying that you can't occasionally get on it hard...we all do. Just be selective about when and where. Above all else...don't video tape yourself doing it and then post it up in the Internet.

So the take away here: be selective about when and where you step on the throttle, don't race or incite stuff with other motorists (especially dumb asses on superbikes who can't ride very well and crash then blame you for crashing them), and lastly don't tape yourself speeding and then put crap out on the Internet. That is just dumb.

gotpball44 · 02-01-2011, 07:02 PM

That wasn't a race lol look how slow they were going haha. You can tell by the other cars they pass on the road. Just a dumbass driver that wants to make a left or u turn and try to beat the traffic instead of waiting for another min.

01-01-2011, 07:26 AM	#89
n2oSS Drives: 2010 SS2 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 434 View My Garage	from video looks like race was over and mustang sped past doing what they said as a ricer fly by. By the time of the wreck, which i still can't really see do to the video quality, both were cruising and i couldnt tell for sure if they were speeding. In this video i really cant even see the vic hit the mustang, it seems to just appear out of the whitewash after the mustang passed.camaro seemed to be the worst of the collision from the head on impact. to chalk this up as a street racing gone wrong story though is kinda making a mountain out of a mole hill. that vic would of ruined someones day at even 30 or 40 mph. If you wanna use this as an "evil street racer" vid, i'de turn around and say this more shows how idiotic random drivers can be when they fail to yield or try to rush across oncoming traffic __________________ Mods: Dynatech Headers, High flow cats, MSD 8.5 wires, magnaflow bullits, Halltech intake, SCT tuner, maggie tvs 2300, Jannetty Tune, BMR driveshaft safety loop, Pfadt drop springs, Pfadt rear trailing arms, Pfadt rear tie rod, ACT Twin Disc Clutch, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft. Appearance Mods: AAC Concept Sidemarkers, P13W Plasma LED Bulbs, Iforged Classics 20". Next Mods: Cam and Fuel System.

01-01-2011, 12:08 PM	#90
SLOWHITE Drives: 2007 Trailblazer SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 102	Seems like everybody has their mind made up on who's fault it is and what not. But just think, if the Camaro and Mustang would have kept racing, they would have been ahead of the dumbass in the Crown Vic and avoided the whole thing, then the Crown vic would have pulled out in front of someone seemingly less deserving to be in an accident, then this ludicras arguement would never have happened. AND, I find it hard to believe there are people on this forum so against street racing and driving fast. I would think those people would be more comfortable on a Prius forum. Why would one buy a high performance vehicle and not "get on it" once in a while, after all, isn't that why GM makes Camaros, Ford makes Mustangs..... I know my first comment may sound assinine, but, to me, no more so than a bunch of anti street racer/go fast people driving a Camaro. __________________ 07 Trailblazer SS awd. 13.08, Vector tune, SLOWHITE intake, ud pulley, 160* t-stat. My all year 'round, daily driven, boat pullin' Mustang beater.

01-04-2011, 04:52 PM	#93
RedJewel2SS 12.23s@113mph Drives: 2SS/RS, A6, just a few bolt ons Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,197	funny how the aftermath pics show a small tool box next to the car... i don't think that's going to help fix it __________________ RIP Cammie 7/15/2009 - 4/1/2011

01-29-2011, 05:51 PM	#97
LYCAN Tattooed K9 Drives: E63AMG Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 278	This certainly wasn't the most hardcore street race by any stretch of the imagination, but it ended badly. People need to realize that when you are out screwing around in traffic, there are any number of things that can go down. When it does and the police arrive they are going to toss you and the other driver in the back of the crusier. The judge will exercise even less humor. Seriously though, don't get into races with people on the street. If you want to wind your car out a bit, you can, but not against another vehicle. Nobody is saying that you can't occasionally get on it hard...we all do. Just be selective about when and where. Above all else...don't video tape yourself doing it and then post it up in the Internet. So the take away here: be selective about when and where you step on the throttle, don't race or incite stuff with other motorists (especially dumb asses on superbikes who can't ride very well and crash then blame you for crashing them), and lastly don't tape yourself speeding and then put crap out on the Internet. That is just dumb. __________________ Regards, John '11 2SS Black/Black M6 Prior Project Cars: 96 WS6, 96 Steeda Cobra, 93/74/99/01ZO6 Vettes, Supra Turbo, and BMW M3. Last edited by LYCAN; 01-29-2011 at 06:04 PM.

01-04-2011, 12:42 PM	#91
Shadowsong Drives: 2014 Mustang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 642	My post will probably echo a few others here, But to me, it looks like the fault was all on the vic. Yes the camaro and mustang were speeding, but not racing (in my opinion). The camaro was in one gear the whole time, I heard the mustang shift, but he let off the throttle as soon as he did. It's a little difficult to tell because of the whitewash due to poor camera skills, but it looks like the crown vic does not even attempt to stop, he just rolls right into the mustang... In my opinion, it was the vic's fault.

01-04-2011, 04:03 PM	#92
08-G35s/6MT Drives: racecars Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: BMN Posts: 1,776	Volvo's safety system wouldve seen the car pulling out ahead of time and saved the day and braked the car to a complete stop, darn they shouldv'e bought a Volvo...

01-12-2011, 11:38 AM	#94
jhempsrt4 Drives: braaaaap Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 38	It looks like if the street racers had taken it to the track, or at least a place with no traffic, it would have never happened. +1 for jail time. They earned it.

01-13-2011, 06:43 PM	#95
DieselNuts Spartan Performance Drives: it like I stole it Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Atlanta Posts: 114	This is retarded. That video was in no way, shape or form, "street racing". Yes, they were speeding, but not a display of racing. I'd be pissed at my friend for not deleting the video though for sure.

02-01-2011, 07:02 PM	#98
gotpball44 Boost Is Your Friend Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 1SS Camaro Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: La Mirada CA Posts: 1,255 View My Garage	That wasn't a race lol look how slow they were going haha. You can tell by the other cars they pass on the road. Just a dumbass driver that wants to make a left or u turn and try to beat the traffic instead of waiting for another min.