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Numchuk · 08-09-2011, 04:47 AM

Me: 2011 Camaro LS auto, stock except for Magnaflow

Him: 1991 Toyota supra with turbo

Can I beat him in M with TC off?
Or is there no chance either way?

*Mindz* · 08-09-2011, 04:57 AM

Which model supra?

They had a 2.5L and a 3.0L

I believe the 2.5L Turbo supra had a high 15 second quarter mile time stock.

Numchuk · 08-09-2011, 05:16 AM

I'm not too sure I just hear that its fast haha he's a friends of my gf and ain't to scared to race haha
What about the other model?

Swytch · 08-09-2011, 08:39 AM

I'd say it depends on mods. Is his car stock? A lot of those little 4 banger turbos can be made monsters with a bit of work.

According to wikipedia, assuming that this is a 91, single turbo, your likely looking at a car that puts out between 200-230 HP and somewhere around 195-240 lb.ft of TQ (depending on model) (Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#1991)

With the weight differential between your LS (3750) and that supra (2800lbs), your looking at a HP to weight ratio of roughly:

You: HP:Pounds = 0.0832

Him: HP:Pounds = 0.0821

So, youve got a slight advantage, maybe. I'd say drivers race.. also factor in thats stock for stock.. like i said, his mods are worth more HP for HP than yours, being that he has less weight to pull around..

bmorecam · 08-09-2011, 09:06 AM

just make sure is not the legendary big body supra.. I still drool over those things and probably the best rwd sport car toyota ever came out with.

MikeRP · 08-09-2011, 09:31 AM

Those Supra's were great cars and a real shame when Toyota quit making them.

Saying that it is no match for a Camaro SS. I drove one alot that same vintage. If its modded - watch out!

justa25thTA · 08-09-2011, 09:32 AM

Unless he's modded and it runs like a top, you should have him. Its a 20 year old Jap car.

08-G35s/6MT · 08-09-2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justa25thTA

Unless he's modded and it runs like a top, you should have him. Its a 20 year old Jap car.

"Jap" ?

8cd03gro · 08-09-2011, 01:32 PM

Unless it's modded you'll be fine. The ones you have to worry about are the 1993+

These are extremely sought after and 99% of them are modded and very quick.

MatchbookSS · 08-09-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justa25thTA

Unless he's modded and it runs like a top, you should have him. Its a 20 year old Jap car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

Digging the your terminology

Granted, I realize that this is a domestic site, and that there are plenty of "backwoods" good ole boy types, and just plain, old-fashioned ignorant people out there, I come from the same background...but "Jap" is a racist term used loosely still...good job at sounding ignorant.

And if he's modded, or swapped, you'll lose.

MatchbookSS · 08-09-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

These are extremely sought after and 99% of them are modded and very quick.

You got 2/3's of that statement right. They are extremely sought after by enthusiasts and (mostly) ricers alike.

Most of them are modded.

But most of them are also sitting at like 150k+ miles nowadays, and have issues.

Finding a clean, low-mileage, reliable one is another issue.

8cd03gro · 08-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatchbookSS

You got 2/3's of that statement right. They are extremely sought after by enthusiasts and (mostly) ricers alike.

Most of them are modded.

But most of them are also sitting at like 150k+ miles nowadays, and have issues.

Finding a clean, low-mileage, reliable one is another issue.

Nobody but an enthusiast will buy one because they will be way too expensive and they won't know what it is. MKIV supra turbos with around 100k miles are still selling for $22k+ . Don't confuse the non-turbo 2jz cars with the 2jzgte cars. The latter are very rare, very sought after, and capable of putting down a lot of power with relatively few mods.

mywifesnameishonda · 08-09-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatchbookSS

Granted, I realize that this is a domestic site, and that there are plenty of "backwoods" good ole boy types, and just plain, old-fashioned ignorant people out there, I come from the same background...but "Jap" is a racist term used loosely still...good job at sounding ignorant.

And if he's modded, or swapped, you'll lose.

No, zipper head is.

Numchuk · 08-09-2011, 02:34 PM

Ok so I found out his is actually the 1991 supra twin turbo stock
Not jus a turbo but a twin turbo at that vs my auto stock with Magnaflow
He's got me right? :/

08-09-2011, 04:57 AM	#2
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	Which model supra? They had a 2.5L and a 3.0L I believe the 2.5L Turbo supra had a high 15 second quarter mile time stock. __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

08-09-2011, 08:39 AM	#4
Swytch Drives: 10 2SS/RS Black, 99 Daktota Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 256	I'd say it depends on mods. Is his car stock? A lot of those little 4 banger turbos can be made monsters with a bit of work. According to wikipedia, assuming that this is a 91, single turbo, your likely looking at a car that puts out between 200-230 HP and somewhere around 195-240 lb.ft of TQ (depending on model) (Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#1991) With the weight differential between your LS (3750) and that supra (2800lbs), your looking at a HP to weight ratio of roughly: You: HP:Pounds = 0.0832 Him: HP:Pounds = 0.0821 So, youve got a slight advantage, maybe. I'd say drivers race.. also factor in thats stock for stock.. like i said, his mods are worth more HP for HP than yours, being that he has less weight to pull around.. __________________ Kooks Signature Series Headers 1-3/4 stepped to 1 7/8, Kooks 3" High Flow Cats, Vararam OTR Cold Air Intake, JRE Performance Tune, RX Catch Can, RX Oil Breather, LSR Tri-Ax short throw shifter, AAC Red/White Halos and Fog Rings, AAC Knight Rider Scanner Bar

08-09-2011, 09:32 AM	#7
justa25thTA Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,630	Unless he's modded and it runs like a top, you should have him. Its a 20 year old Jap car. __________________ Yeah, I'll get around to it...

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08-09-2011, 04:47 AM	#1
Numchuk Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 50 View My Garage	camaro vs supra Me: 2011 Camaro LS auto, stock except for Magnaflow Him: 1991 Toyota supra with turbo Can I beat him in M with TC off? Or is there no chance either way?

08-09-2011, 05:16 AM	#3
Numchuk Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 50 View My Garage	I'm not too sure I just hear that its fast haha he's a friends of my gf and ain't to scared to race haha What about the other model?

08-09-2011, 09:06 AM	#5
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	just make sure is not the legendary big body supra.. I still drool over those things and probably the best rwd sport car toyota ever came out with.

08-09-2011, 09:31 AM	#6
MikeRP ZMAN Drives: 2010 SSRS; 1987 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 30	Those Supra's were great cars and a real shame when Toyota quit making them. Saying that it is no match for a Camaro SS. I drove one alot that same vintage. If its modded - watch out!

08-09-2011, 01:32 PM	#9
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	Unless it's modded you'll be fine. The ones you have to worry about are the 1993+ These are extremely sought after and 99% of them are modded and very quick.

08-09-2011, 02:34 PM	#14
Numchuk Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 50 View My Garage	Ok so I found out his is actually the 1991 supra twin turbo stock Not jus a turbo but a twin turbo at that vs my auto stock with Magnaflow He's got me right? :/