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zebra · 09-13-2009, 03:46 PM

what's funny is that i was installing new recording studio equipment & we purchased a Duality console, made by Solid State Logic (a company in Great Britain). the master volume control goes to 11. once it was all hooked up, we tested the system with some Queen multitracks we had & by golly, 11 really is louder than 10!

MikesZ · 09-13-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Something tells me the LS Cruze will have power windows/locks...

I'd be surprised if any car these days would be offered without power windows and locks except maybe in the subcompact category.

Zabo · 09-13-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Something tells me the LS Cruze will have power windows/locks...

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stovt001 · 09-13-2009, 10:33 PM

Almost no cars come without power windows or locks. Thanks to economies of scale, there is really no cost penalty (in fact offering both options could drive costs up) and weight isn't significantly increased either.

zebra · 09-13-2009, 11:52 PM

i'd rather have manual windows/locks for the sheer ease & cost of maintenance. electronic gizmos are more expensive & easier to break

stovt001 · 09-14-2009, 12:01 AM

Eh, I've seen more manual windows and locks break. I wouldn't dare give them the reliability edge.

zebra · 09-14-2009, 12:34 AM

ok... in my experience, that's how it's been.
the manual parts in my old 90 festiva & in the 99 sierra never gave me any problems while my 91 explorer lost the driver's rear window & the passenger's front window was going. on mom's 01 excursion, the driver's window goes about halfway down then stops unless you keep pushing it down; the rear quarter windows only open when they want to; the rear hatch is the only reliable power lock - the other 4 doors occasionally work without having to be hand/key operated. to give power stuff credit, my brother's old 94 suburban locks/windows all work just fine.

as for seats, manual ones are just easier to keep set where you like it & if somebody moves it, it goes right back into that notch where it feels right

09-13-2009, 03:46 PM	#15
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	what's funny is that i was installing new recording studio equipment & we purchased a Duality console, made by Solid State Logic (a company in Great Britain). the master volume control goes to 11. once it was all hooked up, we tested the system with some Queen multitracks we had & by golly, 11 really is louder than 10! __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

09-13-2009, 10:33 PM	#18
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Almost no cars come without power windows or locks. Thanks to economies of scale, there is really no cost penalty (in fact offering both options could drive costs up) and weight isn't significantly increased either. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

09-13-2009, 11:52 PM	#19
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	i'd rather have manual windows/locks for the sheer ease & cost of maintenance. electronic gizmos are more expensive & easier to break __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

09-14-2009, 12:01 AM	#20
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Eh, I've seen more manual windows and locks break. I wouldn't dare give them the reliability edge. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

09-14-2009, 12:34 AM	#21
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	ok... in my experience, that's how it's been. the manual parts in my old 90 festiva & in the 99 sierra never gave me any problems while my 91 explorer lost the driver's rear window & the passenger's front window was going. on mom's 01 excursion, the driver's window goes about halfway down then stops unless you keep pushing it down; the rear quarter windows only open when they want to; the rear hatch is the only reliable power lock - the other 4 doors occasionally work without having to be hand/key operated. to give power stuff credit, my brother's old 94 suburban locks/windows all work just fine. as for seats, manual ones are just easier to keep set where you like it & if somebody moves it, it goes right back into that notch where it feels right __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

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