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Angrybird 12 · 01-09-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

How is it not like the original design? Engine size? It was TA rules not Chevy s. The 1970 Z28 with the LT1 was an awesome Camaro.

I guess your idea of original design and mine are different. The 70 was the second design, complete new body/chassis design and engine, to me second is not original.

Angrybird 12 · 01-09-2013, 09:35 PM

Kind of got off track. Going back to the title, I don't see how buyers of the 1LE are getting the shaft. That would be like saying the SS buyers got the shaft when both the ZL1 and then the 1LE came out.

2cnd chance · 01-09-2013, 09:37 PM

I never said it was original. You're welcome to read my comments in the Z28 section where most of my post reside. Trust me I'm a diehard 1Gen Z28 fan.

Fraxum · 01-09-2013, 09:59 PM

To me 1LE owners are not getting any shaft. They are getting what may be the best performance bargain on the planet. While the new Z28 will be a little faster, owners will pay dearly for that extra kick.

Also to me the 1lE is a more pure performance oriented name than Z28. While the first 3 years of the Z28 was related to racing, most Z28 models were just the V8 Camaro and the 1LE was the racing Z28 model. So 1LE > Z28 in those years.

And only people in the know knew what the 1LE was. They did not need badges, they just wanted a car with the good stuff and were willing to live without some of the creature comforts of the plusher luxury Z28.

And while Nav, Sunroof, and all the other electronic goodies may not fit the 1LE idea, it is very cool they left off 1LE badges. The 1LE has only ever been the HiPo Camaro and the owners of 1LEs belong to a select club. Lots of people had Z28s. I've owned 2 of them.

Angrybird 12 · 01-09-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

If they build an LS7 based Camaro it will be a Z28 you can bet on it. And if they build it, it will market itself. A 1LE + ZL1 Brakes + Aero + LS7 = Z28 in every way possible according to its original design.

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

How is it not like the original design? Engine size? It was TA rules not Chevy s. The 1970 Z28 with the LT1 was an awesome Camaro.

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

I never said it was original. You're welcome to read my comments in the Z28 section where most of my post reside. Trust me I'm a diehard 1Gen Z28 fan.

I have only seen what you posted here and as you can see you referred to the original design in two separate posts. Which is the 1967-1969 Z/28s.

2cnd chance · 01-09-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have only seen what you posted here and as you can see you referred to the original design in two separate posts. Which is the 1967-1969 Z/28s.

Yes???

WeeZee · 01-11-2013, 02:13 PM

LS7 is a great motor but nothing your LS3 with Nitrous, Supercharger or Turbo can't handle

2cnd chance · 01-11-2013, 02:35 PM

NO power adders! NA only!!!

SS 376 · 01-11-2013, 02:56 PM

Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??

slick rick · 01-11-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SS 376

Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??

Once it makes its way around the Internet, people take it as fact. If it's on the Internet it must be true

tramtwo · 01-11-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

NO power adders! NA only!!!

I agree, I don't know why but I do.

2cnd chance · 01-11-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SS 376

Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??

Huh? This discussion has been going on for years check the Z28 threads.

PYROLYSIS · 01-11-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SS 376

Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??

There were 2 typos if that's what you want to call it. The LS7 was listed as an engine for the Camaro twice. Also, nobody has completely debunked the finding. Was 7.0L a mistake too. Have you read the document?

Bhobbs · 01-11-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

The original design for the Z/28 used the smallest V8 available, it was a high revving small 302 CI 5L engine. Not a 427. If they ever bring out a new Z/28, I bet it will use the new Corvette 5.5L engine.

The original Z/28 used an engine that qualified for Trans Am racing that had a 5 liter displacement cap. No other reason for the 302 than that.

A modern day Z/28 has no such cap so why limit it?

I don't think the 5.5L is anything other than a racing engine which also is limited in displacement.

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Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	To me 1LE owners are not getting any shaft. They are getting what may be the best performance bargain on the planet. While the new Z28 will be a little faster, owners will pay dearly for that extra kick. Also to me the 1lE is a more pure performance oriented name than Z28. While the first 3 years of the Z28 was related to racing, most Z28 models were just the V8 Camaro and the 1LE was the racing Z28 model. So 1LE > Z28 in those years. And only people in the know knew what the 1LE was. They did not need badges, they just wanted a car with the good stuff and were willing to live without some of the creature comforts of the plusher luxury Z28. And while Nav, Sunroof, and all the other electronic goodies may not fit the 1LE idea, it is very cool they left off 1LE badges. The 1LE has only ever been the HiPo Camaro and the owners of 1LEs belong to a select club. Lots of people had Z28s. I've owned 2 of them. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

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01-09-2013, 09:37 PM	#59
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	I never said it was original. You're welcome to read my comments in the Z28 section where most of my post reside. Trust me I'm a diehard 1Gen Z28 fan.

01-11-2013, 02:35 PM	#64
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	NO power adders! NA only!!!

01-11-2013, 02:56 PM	#65
SS 376 Drives: 2010 IBM 1SS (Former) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,032	Can anyone please tell me how we've gone from a typo in a 2014 spec sheet to the LS7 "being all but certain"? Have I missed something??