Hot air Intakes -By Kenne bell

[nards444]

fair enough. I still dont know if I beleive RAM air isnt CAI, to me thats the coldes CAI you can get.

[theholycow]

I think the people who say ram air isn't CAI are crediting other CAIs with advantages other than just the temperature of the air.

[JJ2010]

Originally Posted by mlee

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After looking at these pictures and studing my air box I think you could modify the stock air box.....

Has anybody modified a stock air box???

Will a stock replacement K&N filter be close to the same as what we are seeing in many of the CAI system???

It looks like you might could cut the front corner of the stock air box and the bottom....

Then build a divider like we are seeing from many CAI....

Any idears.......

[theholycow]

Plenty of people modify stock airboxen. I've seen howtos for DIY airbox mods for other cars.

Just dropping in a stock replacement K&N filter element won't change anything; possibly if you've got lots of other modifications then it could.

[Russo]

the factory doesn't produce the cars with CAIs or even an open filter element with a straight tube is because people complain about noise... often times they will sacrafice gas mileage and performance for the sake of sound... look at the baffles and extra boxing on the stock air intake, there is a reason for that...

one last point that HPE made is that in order to get the full effect, the car has to be in motion... sure, if the car is stationary engine temps will overwhelm any intake system resulting in loss of power..

[theholycow]

If the car is stationary, what do you need extra power for?

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Sack Rat 2SS

Another major player with either ram-air or cold-air systems is water ingestion. So non wet location should be part of the package. I remember in the Vette C-5's using a low mounted cold-air inlet while driving through standing water, not runoff, water was ingested into the motor. In extreme cases it could hydrolic/stop the motor.

Has anyone seen the GM Hi Perf intake to be offered soon?

if you are running the intake that low to the ground and are driving thru stationary water, you are asking for trouble.

Originally Posted by nards444

fair enough. I still dont know if I beleive RAM air isnt CAI, to me thats the coldes CAI you can get.

Ram air is based on the principle of forcing air thru the intake while at speed, however, Ram air is a misconception as you arent getting "true" ram air until higher speeds (over 100mph). but most ram air intakes are a straight shot design that allow the air to move easier to the intake where as most CAI's have at least 1 bend in them.

now, the reason CAI's are called CAI's, is because the coolest air (normally) is about 1-2 ft off the ground. with the addition of a heat shroud to cancel out engine bay heat from soaking into the intake area, you are pulling air from that 1-2ft zone around the car.

to an extent, Ram air is a type of CAI, as it does pull air from outside the engine bay, but we keep the two types listed seperately to allow people to differentiate between the two.

Originally Posted by theholycow

I think the people who say ram air isn't CAI are crediting other CAIs with advantages other than just the temperature of the air.

not always, some people will always choose a ram air setup over a CAI setup. Ram air is a type of CAI, but some people just like to say they have a "ram air" setup.

Originally Posted by theholycow

If the car is stationary, what do you need extra power for?

[nards444]

got ya. the ws6 though ahd a shield on the hood where the ram air was, so water couldnt go straight in.

[Ninjak]

The Heat shield helps a CIA, and also the location of the Hood blanket can help. On the new GT500 2010, ford relocated the CIA, used a open element and added a spot through the front grill for air to come directly in and sealed of the CIA with the shield and hood blanket.

http://image.mustang50magazine.com/f...ion_system.jpg

Good ol ford Though this may hurt some aftermarket CIA makers

[newgenss]

I went to my tuner to show him my car and he was impressed how well designed the stock intake was. He told me that the so called "baffles" on the intake tube are not baffles but sort work like a resevoir for air to shoot at a higher rate into the intake. He recommend keeping it an just adding a K&N filter. By the way he was the first in receiving the TVS 2300, he has it on his G8 making 640whp and told me he pulled on a GTR going 80 to 120mph.

[CWI]

Originally Posted by themossman

you can see evidence of to support this particular claim on my cars build history...right now on stock airbox I'm putting down 460+rwhp.

Granted...I am waiting on the Vararam product and will install that next...

Are those still the OEM mufflers?

[themossman]

Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Are those still the OEM mufflers?

yep...

[03ss]

Good read.
Definately Agree hot air is bad. Is it just me or is it smokin hot under the camaro hood after you have been driving and park it. I wonder what the difference in IAT are going to be depending on the brand of supercharger kit you buy. I think the Maggies, Kenne Belle, etc really need to have a good water cooler to get those temps in location due to their mounting location. Centrifugal are probably better choice but then again if the filter is above the headers maybe not. Definately interested in what our best option is. The one with the best IAT would probably be the safest option.

J

[hot ss]

so far the gmpp intake looks the best to me.
the bwoody idea has my interest,
and the over the rad...undecided.