BiggFooT's Procharger F-1X Build - 1047 HP on SBE

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by UNRIVALED SS

You really have have shown a great side by side comparison of two awesome combinations making big power on the same long block. We don't get a chance to see this kind of feedback very often it seems.

What you had was a powerful combo but you've added some substantial power here. I think what you will find is that the car still has ample usable torque but where you will really gain is not fighting to keep the intake temps down. Especially with the gear you're running. That is really why I'm a bit curious to see how it responds differently than before.

For me the solution has been to get the thing hot and leave it hot and it stays consistent. I think what you have now with the F1 is superior to that. It definitely makes boost easier and the power comes in smooth. All very good traits.

You guys in Houston have some of the fastest real street cars found anywhere. They know how to do it right out there.

This is exciting stuff. Thanks for all the info !

This is one of the nicest compliments I have received in a while. UNRIVALED SS!!

I learned a lot throughout this build even though I wasn't the one that put it together. There were decisions to make along the way and I did my best to document them so hopefully down the road someone else can see what we did and learn from it. I am not trying to say we did everything perfectly, but oh my this F-1X is a beast. When/if I ever get all of the supporting pieces in place so I can really feed this F-1X beast, look out folks

[bct10985]

Originally Posted by BiggFoot

No sir I am staying with the stick!! I am currently #5 on the M6 "Anything Goes - Street Registered" list and after this build I can see myself moving up the list a bit

Guess we will see . . .

Thats what i said too till i broke the tr6060

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by bct10985

Thats what i said too till i broke the tr6060

No kidding, I thought the TR6060 was almost bullet proof.

Care to elaborate on some details about what happened to yours?

I think if something ever happened to mine I would send it to Tick Performance for their Level 3 rebuild. Not cheap, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...010-camaro-ss/

[CGbambam]

You could always rig a wastegate onto the pipping to limit boost if it keeps becoming an issue, it will make u peak earlier on and carry on threw out the whole power band

[bct10985]

Originally Posted by BiggFoot

No kidding, I thought the TR6060 was almost bullet proof.

Care to elaborate on some details about what happened to yours?

I think if something ever happened to mine I would send it to Tick Performance for their Level 3 rebuild. Not cheap, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...010-camaro-ss/

I snapped the output shaft off at the track. I went 10.9 completely stock motor with ecs kit. Put the cam in and some suspension upgrades, 15" wheels and broke the trans the next time at track i was hoping to run a low 10. Yea i was looking at tick to rebuild it but decided to go auto. They wont sell you the billet output shaft i guess gforce owns the rights to it and rpm trans sells them or something like that.

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by CGbambam

You could always rig a wastegate onto the pipping to limit boost if it keeps becoming an issue, it will make u peak earlier on and carry on threw out the whole power band

Several mentioned the waste gate approach - It would work and we did consider it!

The issue with this approach is we would have to change the bottom pulley to the 10" pizza size variety, add a pressure sensor to the valve, and then tune for all of that which would be similar to what my friend RealQuick went through.

Instead we went with the suction restriction plate. It was cheap (a billet version is being fabbed now by a metal shop), easy to install, easy to maintain, and I don't have to worry about it leaking through causing loss of boost, etc. Per an earlier post, the restriction plate does not interfere with down low torque but limits HP simply by limiting blower suction which inevitably limits boost psi.

Like I said earlier, lets say I get to the track and after a few runs I am at or near the 10.1 sec record for the M6 fast list, I may decide to pull the restriction plate for one run, or at least I always have that option

[bct10985]

There have been a few m6 that ran 9's they just arent on that list

[AGP Turbo]

Torque is pretty low cause you don't have it pulleyed out yet. With the restrictor plate or wastegate type approach the whole point is you pulley out the blower to it's max so that it's spooled up sooner. Then the wastegate or restrictor plate down the top end that would be way too much power. You don't just add a restrictor plate and expect to gain low end.

We've got a 9sec M6 customer. Pretty basic set-up too.

[blake-b]

I hope to make the M6 list...

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by bct10985

There have been a few m6 that ran 9's they just arent on that list

I am sure this is true. Not everyone is a member of the Camaro Forum, but shame on them

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by blake-b

I hope to make the M6 list...

Good luck Blake!

[QUICRNU]

Originally Posted by BiggFoot

Here is where we landed for now but these will not be the final numbers because he still has the timing turned down a bit. Today was basically a boost test and fuel assessment.

The ID 1700X's will arrive in a couple of days and so will the Super Pulley/Sprag (which is a little smaller so it will increase the boost just a tad)

Restrictor plate at 3.35"
between 2 pulls (008 & 009) calling it:
890 HP
720 TQ
16 psi boost

Attachment 877086

Im feeling good about my 884 guess bro!

[BiggFoot]

Originally Posted by QUICRNU

Im feeling good about my 884 guess bro!

Yes sir you were pretty darn close to where we will end up. Congrats!

We are pretty much done until late next week. The shop owner/tuner is taking a week of well earned vacation beginning later today through next Thursday. When he comes back on Friday, 6/16 the ID 1700X injectors, Super Pulley/Sprag, and billet restriction plate should all be installed and he will get to work on the final tune.

I will eventually get everything documented from the final tune, but if he doesn't finish the tune on Friday then it may be a while because I am headed to Mississippi Friday evening for a week.

I told him that you guys enjoyed the side by side comparison between the Maggie and ProCharger since it is on the same block and same Dyno. He told me that he would get us another side by side comparison on the final tune.

Just so you guys know, G-Force Motorsports took all of the pictures and all but one of the videos for us, and provided me with detailed updates so I could pass them along to you in this thread. I cant really take the credit for anything other than just typing in the info they provided me, so in the end, G-Force is who you should be thanking

[mrimpala02]

Originally Posted by mrimpala02

875 rwhp/765 rwtq @ 15-16 psi is my guess.

I wasn't too far off either except on the torque! Again great numbers! I'm looking forward to your track results!