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Da6d · 09-18-2018, 01:24 PM

Hello all!

Wanted to share my newest buy! As far as I know this is only the second prototype known. I've already spoken with the shop that has the first one, but i wanted to reach out and see if maybe anyone had any of these prototype parts laying around? I'm already fully expecting to build everything from scratch. I know it's not practical, but that's not what I'm looking at. Havent fully decided what it's going in, but my 5th gen is looking real attractive since its paid off and I can sell off the turbo stuff and the LS3 to fund this build.

Dave

LETHAL2SS · 09-18-2018, 02:58 PM

WOW!!! I've seen the working V12 model built, but I don't think I've seen one in a vehicle yet, I am TOTALLY in for a build post on this if you do go for putting it in the camaro!!!

Da6d · 09-18-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LETHAL2SS

WOW!!! I've seen the working V12 model built, but I don't think I've seen one in a vehicle yet, I am TOTALLY in for a build post on this if you do go for putting it in the camaro!!!

Yeah the V12 has been installed in a few things these days, but that's a seperate company based out of Australia.

This V10 was a prototype developed by GM.

JerTM · 09-18-2018, 03:56 PM

I'm not saying it can't be done, cause anything can with money, but one thing that sticks out to me would be sourcing a head gasket for it. Everything else I would imagine can be fabricated. Still a really cool engine. I thought it was odd that a fabricated piece would have the stands that are eventually machined out for the AFM system would all be on one bank, then you posted it's a proto.

Norm Peterson · 09-18-2018, 04:26 PM

Is that a 72° block?

Norm

_Onyx_Wolf_ · 09-18-2018, 05:33 PM

That thing is gonna be sick!

HyperV117 · 09-18-2018, 06:48 PM

I would love to see that guy in a 5th Gen.

https://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/...totype-ls-v10/

http://www.superchevy.com/news/1602-gms-ls-v-10-lives/

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Our GM sources says that around the time of this engine’s development, GM was looking to get into the V10 market to compete with the Ford pickup V10 and even the Dodge SRT-10 pickup. This engine we are told made 616 horsepower and 789 lb-ft of torque

That's nuts.

Da6d · 09-19-2018, 12:15 AM

The original plan was to be a truck motor, with one whole bank running afm to be an inline 5 cyl. Not super worried about head gaskets, as I'm sure I can find someone to make a few one off sets.

It is an even firing 72 degree block.

I've been in contact with a small company that can do one off custom cranks and we're looking around $5500. Could be more, could be less, won't know until he has the specs or the block in hand. Heads though, are going to be real pricey.

JerTM · 09-19-2018, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da6d

The original plan was to be a truck motor, with one whole bank running afm to be an inline 5 cyl. Not super worried about head gaskets, as I'm sure I can find someone to make a few one off sets.

It is an even firing 72 degree block.

I've been in contact with a small company that can do one off custom cranks and we're looking around $5500. Could be more, could be less, won't know until he has the specs or the block in hand. Heads though, are going to be real pricey.

Do they maintain the typical LS style head specs, aside from having an extra cylinder?

Taylortoons · 09-19-2018, 12:11 PM

That looks expensive to build and challenging to maintain over time. Love to see these cars go into new directions. Best of luck, OP!

Sinister10 · 09-19-2018, 06:57 PM

That looks like it would fit perfectly between the fenders of a first gen Monte Carlo (71-72)

Da6d · 09-20-2018, 12:16 AM

Yes, head specs are extremely similar to standard LS heads with 2 extra cylinders. I've got 3 possibilities for heads right now. Adapting an existing V10 set of heads, (probably mopar) cutting welding ls heads together, (not me personally doing it), or lastly, the guy I got the block from said he may have a lead on a set of prototype V10 heads.

Norm Peterson · 09-20-2018, 06:45 AM

It'd be really nice to have the prototype heads just to have them. But there's perhaps more risk that they'll crack; being prototypes suggests they're probably somewhat short of full durability testing & verification.

Norm

JerTM · 09-20-2018, 09:15 AM

My opinion would be try for the proto heads first then cut up some LS heads, keep it GM. Whatever way you do go, It'll be cool to see.

09-18-2018, 01:24 PM	#1
Da6d ALL the boost Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: United States Posts: 104	LSV10: Prototype LS based V10 Hello all! Wanted to share my newest buy! As far as I know this is only the second prototype known. I've already spoken with the shop that has the first one, but i wanted to reach out and see if maybe anyone had any of these prototype parts laying around? I'm already fully expecting to build everything from scratch. I know it's not practical, but that's not what I'm looking at. Havent fully decided what it's going in, but my 5th gen is looking real attractive since its paid off and I can sell off the turbo stuff and the LS3 to fund this build. Dave Attached Images __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 // ECS Novi Centri // Speed engineering 2" primary longtubes // 3" straight pipe collectors back // LT4 fuel system // Airlift performance 3P/3H 2010 Camaro 2SS 6MT // Cat delete // Muffler delete // resonator delete // Turbonetics kit // BC Coilovers // BMR Trailing arms // BMR toe rods // BMR bushings whole rear // LPW diff cover // FIC 1000cc injectors // ZL1 Fuel pump--646whp / 670wtq @ 8psi--Sold

09-18-2018, 02:58 PM	#2
LETHAL2SS Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 413	WOW!!! I've seen the working V12 model built, but I don't think I've seen one in a vehicle yet, I am TOTALLY in for a build post on this if you do go for putting it in the camaro!!! __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS-Mods: Nightfury cam, CNC ported LS3 heads, CNC ported TB, Ported Intake, RX Catch Can, MGW Short Throw Shifter, Mantic 9000 Clutch, TSP 1 7/8 headers, catless NPP, BMR trailing arms, MMR Z/28 Reps 20" gloss black. SOLD 2011 Red Jewel Tintcoat 2SS-Mods: Edlebrock E Force S/C w/ 3" pulley swap,Texas Speed roller Boost Cam 227/235, 641"/649", 114 LSA, PRC Ported Heads, Ported TB,ARH 1 7/8 headers, McLeod RST twin disk 1000 hp clutch, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 620whp

09-18-2018, 04:26 PM	#5
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	Is that a 72° block? Norm __________________ '08 GT coupe 5M (the occasional track toy) '19 WRX 6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)

09-19-2018, 12:15 AM	#8
Da6d ALL the boost Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: United States Posts: 104	The original plan was to be a truck motor, with one whole bank running afm to be an inline 5 cyl. Not super worried about head gaskets, as I'm sure I can find someone to make a few one off sets. It is an even firing 72 degree block. I've been in contact with a small company that can do one off custom cranks and we're looking around $5500. Could be more, could be less, won't know until he has the specs or the block in hand. Heads though, are going to be real pricey. __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 // ECS Novi Centri // Speed engineering 2" primary longtubes // 3" straight pipe collectors back // LT4 fuel system // Airlift performance 3P/3H 2010 Camaro 2SS 6MT // Cat delete // Muffler delete // resonator delete // Turbonetics kit // BC Coilovers // BMR Trailing arms // BMR toe rods // BMR bushings whole rear // LPW diff cover // FIC 1000cc injectors // ZL1 Fuel pump--646whp / 670wtq @ 8psi--Sold

09-19-2018, 12:11 PM	#10
Taylortoons Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 482	That looks expensive to build and challenging to maintain over time. Love to see these cars go into new directions. Best of luck, OP! __________________ GPI Built Procharger D-1/13 PSI/Race Intercooler/SS3 Cam Kit/Kooks LTH/X- pipe/FIC 1050/E85/3.91 gears/Centerforce Dual Disc clutch/Flowmaster Outlaw/775whp/680tqSOLD

09-18-2018, 03:56 PM	#4
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,941	I'm not saying it can't be done, cause anything can with money, but one thing that sticks out to me would be sourcing a head gasket for it. Everything else I would imagine can be fabricated. Still a really cool engine. I thought it was odd that a fabricated piece would have the stands that are eventually machined out for the AFM system would all be on one bank, then you posted it's a proto.

09-18-2018, 05:33 PM	#6
_Onyx_Wolf_ Onyx_Z7 <— Instagram Drives: 2013 2ss 1le Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 634	That thing is gonna be sick!

09-19-2018, 06:57 PM	#11
Sinister10 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Indiana Posts: 544	That looks like it would fit perfectly between the fenders of a first gen Monte Carlo (71-72) __________________ 2010 2SS/RS 6M, MGW flatstick, CAI cold air intake, SLP loudmouth 2 axleback, TSP 1 7/8 headers w/ hfc, pfadt 1" springs, SRP pedals, emblempros "6.2L" emblems on hood, ZL1 grill, M/T SC-5 wheels, nitto motivo 275f 315r. ZL1 addons wickerbill, smoked lenses, resonator delete x pipe, diode dynamics DRLs 1LE suede steering wheel, mighty mouse CC. SCTX4 and Dyno Steve tune.

09-20-2018, 12:16 AM	#12
Da6d ALL the boost Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: United States Posts: 104	Yes, head specs are extremely similar to standard LS heads with 2 extra cylinders. I've got 3 possibilities for heads right now. Adapting an existing V10 set of heads, (probably mopar) cutting welding ls heads together, (not me personally doing it), or lastly, the guy I got the block from said he may have a lead on a set of prototype V10 heads. __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS A10 // ECS Novi Centri // Speed engineering 2" primary longtubes // 3" straight pipe collectors back // LT4 fuel system // Airlift performance 3P/3H 2010 Camaro 2SS 6MT // Cat delete // Muffler delete // resonator delete // Turbonetics kit // BC Coilovers // BMR Trailing arms // BMR toe rods // BMR bushings whole rear // LPW diff cover // FIC 1000cc injectors // ZL1 Fuel pump--646whp / 670wtq @ 8psi--Sold

09-20-2018, 06:45 AM	#13
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	It'd be really nice to have the prototype heads just to have them. But there's perhaps more risk that they'll crack; being prototypes suggests they're probably somewhat short of full durability testing & verification. Norm __________________ '08 GT coupe 5M (the occasional track toy) '19 WRX 6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)

09-20-2018, 09:15 AM	#14
JerTM Drives: 2011 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 1,941	My opinion would be try for the proto heads first then cut up some LS heads, keep it GM. Whatever way you do go, It'll be cool to see.