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Old 03-09-2011, 08:35 PM   #15
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Time for an update.

I've been less than satisfied with my 0-60 times, as recorded by the "Torque" app on my android phone. Several people suggested the app was not providing accurate numbers and that I should get a dash hawk. Some others suggested getting a K.A.T. Matrix Accelerometer. It has NO connection to the car, it just registers acceleration and uses that to time 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

So, after getting over the sticker shock of the DashHawk, I decided to get the Matrix, since it's 1/10th the price. Just made three runs with it. I also had my "Torque" app running at the same time, just for comparison.

Now, since installing the Roto-Fab Intake, I've never had temperatures as low, usually between 58 and 77 degrees. I've also never once gotten below 7.0 on Torque. So, I set the car's weight in the Matrix, suction cup it to the radio face and make my runs, listed below:
Matrix Torque
5.08 7.3
4.88 7.1
4.52 7.0

Uhm. . . WTH??? I expected a variance, but that's a bit incredible. While I love the numbers of the Matrix, I really don't believe them. And Torque gave me a calculated 251 RWHP and 220 Lbs/ft torque. So those numbers make sense.

So, what should I believe. Hm, the average? That comes to . . .5.98 And the funny thing is that's the number I wanted to see! But that was VERY Fuzzy Math. Time to read the manual on the Matrix in detail and see if there's more to it than just entering car's weight.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:44 PM   #16
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Well, I figured out why the Matrix reads so low.

They misjudge when you hit 60. The instructions say to mount it on the windshield as close to level and 100% dead center in the middle, as possible. When I ran my first tests, I mounted it the same way I saw others doing it in their pictures. I placed it on the Radio faceplate on the right side. I noticed a beeping sound before I hit 60, but didn't know what it was, since the manual doesn't mention beeps. I do know it was measurably before 60. Maybe as early as 54,55 mph?

Tonight I mounted it the same place, but made sure it was 100% level and the face was exactly perpendicular, not tilted, and drove a little softer to 60. 6.22 seconds BEEPED and stopped timing at 57 MPH. I said softer, not slow. My eyes were on the speedometer and the Matrix, with the street (a deserted, arrow straight road)in periferal vision.) I tried it again with a full-out punch. It stopped at 5.88 at 55 MPH.

So I moved it to the windshield, dead center under the mirror. Tried again. 5.98 at 58 MPH. Last time, 5.99 at 59 MPH.

So.... Item 1, I can safely say I've got a 6 second car. I'm betting 6.0 to 6.1 is the real times. This is running 89 Octane, 3/4 tank, exterior temp of 64, trans in "S" no stall, just release break, stomp the Gas and hold on.

Item 2, The times on the monitors cannot be used for bragging rights. (duh, yeah I know. Just saying it out loud.)

But my personal point is that I've now proved to myself that my car, in daily driver trim with just a Roto-Fab Intake can hit 0 - 60 in 6 seconds. 91-93 Octane and 1/4 tank should hit 5.90. I'm now happy and satisfied it is running like it should be. Next up, a dyno then drag strip for a real timeslip. But that's a while away right now. Maybe next month.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:23 AM   #17
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So Whats the next install. Exhaust? headers?
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:35 PM   #18
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Next is windshield washer relocation, and my Z-Force hood to force feed the CAI. (When it comes in.)

Then a dyno and 1/4 mile run in this setup.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:53 PM   #19
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Heart Broken



My garage tried to eat my Camaro!

I was backing out of the garage. The kids were in the driveway and when it was out I was going to hop out and the two younger hop in the back and the oldest in the passenger seat.

Since I was in it for just a second, I did something I've done many times over the years with other cars. I pulled the door shut, but didn't pull hard to latch it.

My garage has a lip before you drop an inch or so to the driveway. My younger son (the impulsive one) started across the driveway, then when my oldest yelled, he stopped. Well, between my sudden stop, the drop and then tapping the gas, the door swung open just enough to catch the garage door rail.

I was only rolling, not even on the gas. But the weight of the car was enough to bend the rail and put two notches in my door. The garage wall pushed the window edge forward and the hinges buckled, shifting the door forward to almost touching the front fender.

The second I heard the metal I slammed on the brakes and . Here's the damage. Progressive's got the car at the bodyshop I requested and they promise to return her in as new condition or continue until I'm happy. In the meantime, I'm in a GD Galant.

Here's how she looked when I dropped her off.



I do everything possible to be safe, careful and keep her in pristine condition. And a split-second freak occurrence puts her in the shop.

I hope everything fits and looks perfect when I get my car back. It hurt driving her like this.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:19 PM   #20
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Got Midnight back friday. The repairs are not up to standard. But they are going to redo the issues. Probably going to get a new skin.they tried just correcting the sheet metal, but the creases and curves don't line up.

So Tuesday it goes back.

In the meantime, I installed the windshield washer relocation. Now she can pull fresh air directly from in front of the wheel well. The hood should be here Monday. Can't wait!

Of course, then back to the insurance company for corrections.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:33 PM   #21
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Just finished transferring pictures of the install. Forgive the camera phone level quality. But hopefully you can get the point!

Here's the basic install photos.
1. Original Bottle blocked airway when wheelwell was in place


2. Original pump, new hose from bottle and original hose to windshield nozzles. I zip-tied them together to keep them from crimping and to keep the filter from rattling against the frame.


3. Look at the open airway! Now she can breathe! If I wasn't installing an MPD Z-Force hood with ducting, I'd add the ADM scoop to create a bit of a ram air effect.


4. And Lastly, the nice clean look of the Cold Air Induction with a professional Windshield washer bottle directly behind.


Used a lift at a friend's shop. Made the job MUCH easier. On the drive home, I swear the Roto-Fab roar was even more pronounced! And it really seemed to run better over 3,500 RPM!
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:44 PM   #22
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Make sure you go with the new door skin. Black is very hard to hide ANYTHING!
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:00 AM   #23
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Will do. They did a VERY good job fixing the bent sheet metal. But the original waistline crease is no longer sharp, and the lower "indent" doesn't quite line up with the body's. That's why I'll probably get new sheet metal.

Other issues:
Inner door panel is 1/4 inch too far forward, so the back lip of the rubber at top of door doesn't fit under panel lip.
Door striker/latch off about 1/16 inch. Door fully closed is open about the width of the sheet metal.
Window slightly out of alignment, so the "lower window/raise window" message comes on every time I start the car. Probably only 1 degree or so, but when the window is open a fraction, you can see it doesn't line up with the frame perfect.
The tweeter housing is slightly out of alignment(1/8 inch). I thought that just popped in, so hopefully aligning the door panel with fix that automatically.

Sounds like a lot, but they're all so minor a "normal" person would probably not care. But this is my pride and joy. The car I have wanted since I was 10 and saw "Smokey and the Bandit." So I'm annal and Picky as hell. But I wasn't a jerk about it. Never pays to be rude to people who are working on your stuff. I simply pointed out the issue, showed how the other side looked, and let the adjuster make the notes. She was very helpful and was very willing to just have me call her when I was bringing the car back so she could set up a rental and coordinate the next round of repairs.

Not happy it has to go back, but VERY happy how willing they are to make it right.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:21 PM   #24
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Car's still at the body shop. They tried to get the door perfect, couldn't pull it off, so ordered a new skin.

The skin is installed, painted, and baked. Monday they buff it and reinstall the parts removed. I should get it back Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on how long it takes.

The hood came in this week, so they have it. Had to do some minor re-paint, since the original paint job wasn't show ready. They install it Monday as well.

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Old 04-09-2011, 10:57 PM   #25
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New Scoop is on and looks great!!

Here's how it came out!







This design looks like it was an original equipment piece. The lines flow with the rest of the car. And it feeds directly to the Roto-Fab CAI box perfectly! The gasket provided seems a bit too thick, so I either need to shave about 1/8th inch off the top, or get a thinner gasket. That's how closely the air duct lines up with the edges of this CAI!!

Love it!
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:20 AM   #26
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Stripes Finally on!

Ok, I've been trying to get concept-style stripes on the car since I bought it.

Finally got them on!!

First View


Head on


And, my favorite view


Some small issues with the stripes, since the installer had to create the hood stripes from scratch, imitating the photos I showed him, and matching it to the rest of the kit I had ordered. But nobody is going to notice them on the street when I'm driving by.

The reality is starting to match my imagination!
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:10 PM   #27
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How long did it take to get the hood? Was it already painted black?
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Old 07-02-2011, 06:12 PM   #28
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I purchased it through Garyz Customz. The longest wait was for MPD to make the hood. It's a small business, so they do hoods per order, and if you order when there's a wait, you go in to the line. Took 5 weeks to get the hood, then a week for the painting. 7 weeks total I think after shipping time.

Some businesses keep the hoods in stock, so that will save time right there.
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