FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/09/05/...#slide-7078093

2019 T1XX Sierra Diesel.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Why would they produce a different and all new Corvette model with the car moving to a mid-engined layout? If anything keep the C7 while offering the mid-engined car as the halo model. Once the halo model gets a refresh (can't believe I'm typing this) dump the C7 and stick with the mid-engined car, or keep them both.

If GM wants to attack the 'affordable RWD' market they should do something lightweight and turbocharged. Give it a manual, make it handle well and keep it somewhat economical and they could have a winner. To me, your suggestion reminds me of a Camaro V6 1LE.

Well, I did preface my post with this:

Originally Posted by me

If Corvette is expanding the brand, rather than outright ditching the traditional front-mid engine/rear drive layout all together ...

But beyond that, I don't think they're ditching the conventional layout. Not when they roughly doubling the size of the factory (no paint shop in the world is that big). The mid-engine car can get its own line, while the little guy shares a line with the regular Corvette.


The V6 1LE is a good starting point for performance, but I'm thinking smaller & lighter. A 90-something inch wheel base & curb weight right around 3000 pounds feels right to me.

The choice of engine is almost a matter of preference. I can see doing 4 cylinders. Maybe have a base NA car with a lower price point then a high-output turbo at the top trim. Similar to how the Solstice/Sky were done. But the problem is the Miata. Either the car is bigger and heavier than the Miata (like the Kappa twins were) and gets derided for it ... or it competes toe-to-toe with the little Mazda & gets derided for it by all the people who laugh at the Miata.

With my idea, it basically uses the 370Z as a punching bag. Not the most challenging of tasks in the automotive world, sure, but it does allow for a lot more leeway when creating a name for itself.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/09/05/...#slide-7078093

2019 T1XX Sierra Diesel.

Do you think they're dusting off that light duty diesel they shelved ages ago?

[FenwickHockey65]

I was under the impression that at this point, the 4.5L Duramax was basically too old to go into actual production. Either it wouldn't meet emissions or it simply wasn't modern enough to be competitive anymore.

But who knows. Maybe GM updated it.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well, I did preface my post with this:

But beyond that, I don't think they're ditching the conventional layout. Not when they roughly doubling the size of the factory (no paint shop in the world is that big). The mid-engine car can get its own line, while the little guy shares a line with the regular Corvette.


The V6 1LE is a good starting point for performance, but I'm thinking smaller & lighter. A 90-something inch wheel base & curb weight right around 3000 pounds feels right to me.

The choice of engine is almost a matter of preference. I can see doing 4 cylinders. Maybe have a base NA car with a lower price point then a high-output turbo at the top trim. Similar to how the Solstice/Sky were done. But the problem is the Miata. Either the car is bigger and heavier than the Miata (like the Kappa twins were) and gets derided for it ... or it competes toe-to-toe with the little Mazda & gets derided for it by all the people who laugh at the Miata.

With my idea, it basically uses the 370Z as a punching bag. Not the most challenging of tasks in the automotive world, sure, but it does allow for a lot more leeway when creating a name for itself.

It's probably a very pretty paint booth though lol

I see what you're saying, and the big problem is the Miata. If you compete with it the journo's will call the miata the winner (or a close 'tie'). Going for the 370 is a better target for sure out of the two directions.

Going for the 370 opens it up to a lot of other comparisons with cars like the 2-Series, Cayman, Mustang etc. Something with weight around 3 - 3,200 lbs and a tt v6 would make a good splash in that segment.

I think a wheelbase around 90in would be a touch too small. Something around 100in would be a good compromise between something like a Solstace and a ATS/Camaro. I thought the Solstace and Sky were a bit too cramped inside.

Edit: i'm now seeing your thought for a different model under the corvette brand. Make it a smaller mid-engined car like a Cayman and it could be badass

[sherob]

I can see the TT V6 market opening up now, even Kia is getting in to the game w/ the Stinger... and who knows what Toyota/BMW will be coming out with when they drop the Z4/Supra.

Shoot, don't forget the BRZ and GT86, even though they are on the low end of the spectrum, still fun cars to drive.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by sherob

I can see the TT V6 market opening up now, even Kia is getting in to the game w/ the Stinger... and who knows what Toyota/BMW will be coming out with when they drop the Z4/Supra.

Shoot, don't forget the BRZ and GT86, even though they are on the low end of the spectrum, still fun cars to drive.

Feels like thats been in the works forever.

[sherob]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Feels like thats been in the works forever.

but it's finally looking like it'll happen!

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/bmw...-and-info-news

[Corner carver]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

It's probably a very pretty paint booth though lol

I see what you're saying, and the big problem is the Miata. If you compete with it the journo's will call the miata the winner (or a close 'tie'). Going for the 370 is a better target for sure out of the two directions.

Going for the 370 opens it up to a lot of other comparisons with cars like the 2-Series, Cayman, Mustang etc. Something with weight around 3 - 3,200 lbs and a tt v6 would make a good splash in that segment.

I think a wheelbase around 90in would be a touch too small. Something around 100in would be a good compromise between something like a Solstace and a ATS/Camaro. I thought the Solstace and Sky were a bit too cramped inside.

Edit: i'm now seeing your thought for a different model under the corvette brand. Make it a smaller mid-engined car like a Cayman and it could be badass

Why not a 'tuner' style LTG powered Camaro?
The stock 2.0 is already more than the 370Z can hang with. Drop in the 2.5L (basically the same block) and some higher tier suspension goodies with the new goodyear supercar tires. The car is already @ 3200lbs and change, with some of the weight savings implemented elsewhere in the lineup already a 3000lbs 'LTG' camaro with 325hp 340ft/lbs is, I think, doable for the factory.

[FenwickHockey65]

T1XX SUVs to gain independent rear suspension.

[xc_SS/RS]

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...8-zora-expect/

Just saw this article this morning.

[huggercamaro21]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

T1XX SUVs to gain independent rear suspension.

Thats a good improvement.

[DGthe3]

Happy Birthday Fen

[sherob]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Happy Birthday Fen

+1 hope you can celebrate w/ some cake today.