Onstar....a spy???? please comment

[Christiancoach]

Remove the OnStar box. Problem solved!
I have friends who thank thier lucky stars for OnStar. Flipped their Trailblazer down an embankment late at night, and trapped both of them. Could have been much worse without OnStar activiated.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by MLL67RSSS

There have been all kinds of incidents where automotive journalist and others were doing some 'performance' driving or testing of a vehicle on skip-pads/cones, etc. and been contacted by On-Star, they didn't "hit anything." Regardless of the reason, the recording of his voice was the evidence that sealed his fate and placed him at the scene.



He asked for an example, and this provided a perfect one "of someones OnStar history being used against them" doesn't it?

But how about an example where OnStar ratted someone out. This is the real question of privacy. In this case, did the police have to Subpoena the evidence or did OnStar just call the police out of the blue and inform on the driver? Those are completely different scenarios. One supports your privacy the other does not. With a warrant, the police can tap about whatever they want so not sure how OnStar should be somehow exempt from that.

BTW, OnStar can only "call you". If you don't answer they can't hear you.

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

How is this thread still going?

Rampant paranoia with a dash of big brother is out to there and trying to get you.

[Cristoff]

Originally Posted by coolman

I let a fart go the other morning before my wife got in , and she ask me if that was me and I said "no". The next thing I know onstar came on and said yes it was. Exactly 2min ago at a 25decibles and a stink factor of ten.

You had me till 25 Decibels. That would blow out your o-ring and perhaps tear a hole in the ozone layer....

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Rampant paranoia with a dash of big brother is out to there and trying to get you.

I hate that....Would rather have split-pea soup...*shudders*

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

But Glenn Beck speaks nothing but the truth, like everyone else at Fox news ...

WRONG! They LIE all tie time! I know this because Ed Shultz said so on MSNBC!!!

Q.E.D.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

WRONG! They LIE all tie time! I know this because Ed Shultz said so on MSNBC!!!

Q.E.D.

I think they're all jerks.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Stingr69

Could government make an effort to monitor people more intrusively at some point in the future? OK - yes it is possible, but lets remember to do a reality check now before we throw the OnStar baby out with the bath water.

Who needs OnStar or other "Conspiracy Theories" when we have the proof that privacy is no longer a right?

Two examples:


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...acking-device/

"Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back"


http://nationalsecuritylawbrief.com/...on-of-privacy/

"An August decision by the Ninth Circuit indicates that warrants may not be needed for placing GPS tracking devices on suspects’ cars. See U.S. v. Pineda-Moreno, 591 F.3d 1212 (9th Cir. 2010). Surprisingly, that court decided that even though the defendant’s car was within his curtilage when police placed the GPS, he had no expectation of privacy and therefore the police did not need a warrant."

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I think they're all jerks.

You may be right but it's amazing how many of them go out of their way to trash what amounts to a "competitor" and people watching them still think they are watching "journalists" reporting "news".

Ya think that maybe because these guys are competing for audience and advertisers that they might be saying things about the other guy that are not exactly honest?

[Mr. Wyndham]

heh. You would think.

[ToolFan66]

I have two Antennas that come out of my head just to keep in touch with my long lost Big Brother..

[Number 3]

As for the "news", I don't think anyone lies. I think it's simply perspective.

For example, "A bill was passed today by congress assuring healthcare for everyone". Simple fact.

"Oh my God this is wonderful, America is saved" or "Oh my God this will bankrupt the country and give more control of our lives to the government". Which of these is reported as news is merely perspective. Now if you think that when the "perspective" you don't like is is reported in the "news" is lying, that isn't the fault of MSNBC or Fox News.

The line between entertainment and news is a fine line and getting finer.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Number 3

As for the "news", I don't think anyone lies. I think it's simply perspective.

For example, "A bill was passed today by congress assuring healthcare for everyone". Simple fact.

When you make it so simple, it even sounds like a good thing.

Sadly, getting the allowable treatment isn't the same as getting cured.

[Berean]

Originally Posted by Number 3

As for the "news", I don't think anyone lies. I think it's simply perspective.

For example, "A bill was passed today by congress assuring healthcare for everyone". Simple fact.

"Oh my God this is wonderful, America is saved" or "Oh my God this will bankrupt the country and give more control of our lives to the government". Which of these is reported as news is merely perspective. Now if you think that when the "perspective" you don't like is is reported in the "news" is lying, that isn't the fault of MSNBC or Fox News.

The line between entertainment and news is a fine line and getting finer.

I agree with this in principle. However, the missing component is that most of the "perspective" isn't based on ANY facts.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Berean

I agree with this in principle. However, the missing component is that most of the "perspective" isn't based on ANY facts.

Sure it is. All perspective has a basis in truth, otherwise it's no longer perspective and becomes imagination. However, the extent to which these original facts are distorted and stretched varies....a lot.