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*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-11-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shnomac77

I smell panic dejour..........

Stovt001, Might I suggest removing the pull strap part from your original post so that it cuts down on the confusion...

EDIT: nevermind

Thanks

racert33 · 05-11-2009, 07:19 PM

[QUOTE=colin911;477993]Yikes. However, the orange peel doesn't look any worse than most new cars these days.QUOTE]

Really? That is viewed as alright? I have noticed this on some other pics of pre-pros and it brought concern to me

Silver Streak · 05-11-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus6

You guys just loooooove to give sites like jalopnik ammunition,dont you?

TLSTWIN · 05-11-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

First, A-pillar trim is basically a snap in attachment. Likely needs to be popped back in place. Not a huge deal, should have been caught in prep. And the part may have been removed and reinstalled for some other reason and not re installed properly. I haven't seen anything like this in any Camaro so far and I've seen way more than you guys.

Second, gap in the rear seat is where the pull tab for the folding seat comes out. IT IS NOT POOR QUALITY IN THE STITCHING. Someone clearly pushed it back in. Look at any other photo on this site including mine and you'll see the pull tab coming out of the slot.

The "Orange peel" is on nearly every car to some degree. Lighting can and often does make it look worse than it is. This isn't a problem for me. But you'll have to judge for yourselves. Mass production does not allow for "perfect" paint jobs. The paint on the Camaro is equal to any other GM car or truck.

I can't speak to the other issues as they don't show up in photos.

Don't over react to this.

you beat me too it.....

stovt001 · 05-11-2009, 07:23 PM

Paint you'll have to judge for yourself in person. Pictures bring too many light variables into play.

Now I'm excited that it has a strap coming out of that hole. That's a huge upgrade from the system in my Cobalt, where I have to dive into the trunk, pull some knobs, while simultaneously having a friend pull the seat backs forward. That is a good feature!

stovt001 · 05-11-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

Stovt001, Might I suggest removing the pull strap part from your original post so that it cuts down on the confusion...

Edited. Thanks for the heads up. I really hope that ends that bit of panic.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-11-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Edited. Thanks for the heads up. I really hope that ends that bit of panic.

Yeah, the other issues are not that big of a deal, but that looked horrible in the picture.

Thanks for saving us a lot of headaches

Number 3 · 05-11-2009, 07:28 PM

Here is the strap in the rear seat.

bolteon593 · 05-11-2009, 07:29 PM

how are you so sure these are all things that came that way with the car... the thing does sit in a dealership and all that stuff is doable by people.

considering we haven't heard a single issue of any of these, i wouldn't be so concerned.

stovt001 · 05-11-2009, 07:33 PM

As far as the paint and door-trim rough spots, I initially assumed they were caused by customers treating the car roughly, but there are no scuff marks or other signs of trauma, so they do appear to be manufacturing/process errors.

The A-pillar trim we have no idea about. It didn't just snap back into place, and it appeared to be more mis-aligned or warped than simply popped out.

Even if they are all factory-originated, this is one isolated incident so I wouldn't panic, just be careful checking the car upon delivery.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 05-11-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

I understand these are build defects that not all cars will have, and if mine doesn't have them, I'm good. The rest of my review was about how much I liked the car. How is it not the right car for me? Please elaborate.

I heard no real excitement from you. Again, putting the quality issues aside(assuming this was just an aberration, hopefully) you don't seem that enthusiastic. Nothing wrong with your review, don't get me wrong, but I just didn't feel any real excitement in your post. There were many issues you commented on, shifter, wheels, etc. that I totally disagree with you on. Doesn't make either one of us right. Maybe your enthusiasm just didn't come through in your post or maybe I'm to dense to pick up on it. I hope you do end up with a new Camaro and if you enjoy it half as much as I am, I think you will be very happy with the new Camaro.

LabRat · 05-11-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Here is the strap in the rear seat.

Thank You!

I stand by my previous post!

It would take me 10 minutes at a high rate of speed to make it to the upholstery shop!

LabRat

stovt001 · 05-11-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

I heard no real excitement from you. Again, putting the quality issues aside(assuming this was just an aberration, hopefully) you don't seem that enthusiastic. Nothing wrong with your review, don't get me wrong, but I just didn't feel any real excitement in your post. There were many issues you commented on, shifter, wheels, etc. that I totally disagree with you on. Doesn't make either one of us right. Maybe your enthusiasm just didn't come through in your post or maybe I'm to dense to pick up on it. I hope you do end up with a new Camaro and if you enjoy it half as much as I am, I think you will be very happy with the new Camaro.

Oh I see where you're coming from. I'm certainly excited. I firmly believe there is not a more unique, striking, gorgeous car in this price range. I'm also a very practical guy. So I'm being tempted by a bunch of hot hatches and sport sedans that would be far more practical, but just not as exciting and different and WOW. So it was the passion vs reason battling in me. Everything I talked about in here - visibility, steering, materials, controls, were issues I was worried about - the cons side of my pros cons list. So now that I've taken care of those and crossed them off the cons side, I can go back to lusting after this car.

levi1922 · 05-11-2009, 08:11 PM

thanks for the review, theses are the first pictures i have seen of a production car that was messed up from factory. and i have seen a lot of pictures, so lets all hope that none of Camaro5 members get ones that have any blemishes. but im sure there wont be too many at all

05-11-2009, 07:23 PM	#33
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Paint you'll have to judge for yourself in person. Pictures bring too many light variables into play. Now I'm excited that it has a strap coming out of that hole. That's a huge upgrade from the system in my Cobalt, where I have to dive into the trunk, pull some knobs, while simultaneously having a friend pull the seat backs forward. That is a good feature! __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

05-11-2009, 07:28 PM	#36
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,171 View My Garage	Here is the strap in the rear seat. Attached Images __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

05-11-2009, 07:33 PM	#38
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	As far as the paint and door-trim rough spots, I initially assumed they were caused by customers treating the car roughly, but there are no scuff marks or other signs of trauma, so they do appear to be manufacturing/process errors. The A-pillar trim we have no idea about. It didn't just snap back into place, and it appeared to be more mis-aligned or warped than simply popped out. Even if they are all factory-originated, this is one isolated incident so I wouldn't panic, just be careful checking the car upon delivery. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

05-11-2009, 08:11 PM	#42
levi1922 Drives: 2LT RS CGM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,378	thanks for the review, theses are the first pictures i have seen of a production car that was messed up from factory. and i have seen a lot of pictures, so lets all hope that none of Camaro5 members get ones that have any blemishes. but im sure there wont be too many at all __________________

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05-11-2009, 07:19 PM	#30
racert33 waiting for white Drives: vertically challenged 95 c/k Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: IL Posts: 110	[QUOTE=colin911;477993]Yikes. However, the orange peel doesn't look any worse than most new cars these days.QUOTE] Really? That is viewed as alright? I have noticed this on some other pics of pre-pros and it brought concern to me

05-11-2009, 07:29 PM	#37
bolteon593 Drives: 2011 GT500 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: southern california Posts: 902	how are you so sure these are all things that came that way with the car... the thing does sit in a dealership and all that stuff is doable by people. considering we haven't heard a single issue of any of these, i wouldn't be so concerned.