Rear camber still off after camber bolts - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

atxcamaross · 07-14-2016, 03:49 PM

I have the Bmr lowering springs I believe 1" drop
When I installed 15" kit which uses stock modified control arms and adjustable trailing arms
My alignment guy said he could only get the rear camber to about -1 maxed out with the new eccentric camber bolts but then the tow was off/out so with the toe set correct my camber is at -1.75
I was hoping to get my camber at 0 and I've seen many able to get to 0 with the aftermarket eccentric bolts even lowered as much as 2" such as in this thread

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...Lowered+camber

Is there any way to adjust the toe after you get the camber set?

JusticePete · 07-14-2016, 04:16 PM

Your tech didn't know how to use them. The toe and camber in the rear act just like an A arm. They fight each other. He had to put the toe eccentrics in a neutral position, where the eccentric does not touch the alignment 'fences' on either side, and adjust camber first.

Print this post and this page. http://www.jpssonline.com/the-book-f...-2010-camaro-2

Go back and have it redone. Tell him he can send me $100 for schooling him ;-)

atxcamaross · 07-14-2016, 04:49 PM

He said the max he could get the camber was about -1 with the aftermarket eccentric bolts but then the toe was way too far off

JusticePete · 07-14-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by atxcamaross

He said the max he could get the camber was about -1 with the aftermarket eccentric bolts but then the toe was way too far off

I understand that. He said that because he wasn't following the right procedure or maybe ha had the wrong parts? What after market eccentric did you give him to use? Can you post a picture or a link?

atxcamaross · 07-14-2016, 06:13 PM

I bought the Bmr can eccentric bolts

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...productid=1576

JusticePete · 07-14-2016, 08:10 PM

They are a copy of my bolts first done for the G8 so the should work. The tech needs to read my instructions and realign your car.

Olddudesrule · 07-15-2016, 09:33 AM

Damn Pete, why can't your shop be in Arizona!!

JusticePete · 07-15-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Olddudesrule

Damn Pete, why can't your shop be in Arizona!!

Make plans to come East and enjoy the Bucket List Tracks. We complete your build and you leave you car with us for a few months. We haul it to VIR, NCM, Road Atlanta and Road America. You run four Bucket List Tracks and then head home. Live like the ultra rich on a modest budget where you fly in, drive and fly out. If you don't have a trailer, no worries, we do

Olddudesrule · 07-16-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

Make plans to come East and enjoy the Bucket List Tracks. We complete your build and you leave you car with us for a few months. We haul it to VIR, NCM, Road Atlanta and Road America. You run four Bucket List Tracks and then head home. Live like the ultra rich on a modest budget where you fly in, drive and fly out. If you don't have a trailer, no worries, we do

Sounds like an awesome way to get your build done, and run some great tracks with your new build! Tempting...

Still trying to figure out how far I want to take the Camaro. I'm fortunate that it"s not a DD, but right now I want to keep it a comfortable weekend cruiser, as well as a capable track car. I'm still just running in HPDE 2, but pushing to get to HPDE 4 by this time next year. The car has been performing great, considering my skill level, but I'm working on improving oil cooling and brakes for the Fall season. Your builds look incredible, your experience and reputation impressive, and if I decide to make the car a more track orientated monster, you'd definitely be the shop I'd feel comfortable going with. For the time being, like others on the forum, I'll freely feed off your advice, and appreciate you for it..

JusticePete · 07-16-2016, 12:23 PM

Thank you for the kind word Olddudesrule.

Update. We are checking the modified lower control arms to see if they may be the source of the camber issue.

EDIT: I should say we are working with the OP to verify the length of the modified LCAs.

atxcamaross · 07-16-2016, 09:45 PM

Sorry I don't want to unbolt the arms for fear of screwing my alignment up. How about I just measure center to center as best I can?

JusticePete · 07-17-2016, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atxcamaross

Sorry I don't want to unbolt the arms for fear of screwing my alignment up. How about I just measure center to center as best I can?

It is worth a try.

atxcamaross · 07-17-2016, 10:13 PM

Ok center to center was a hair unde 20" as well. I'd say 19 15/16"

JusticePete · 07-18-2016, 07:05 AM

That is close. Have the alignment tech elongate the sub-frame slots.

07-14-2016, 03:49 PM	#1
atxcamaross Drives: '10 Camaro SS CGM Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 126	Rear camber still off after camber bolts I have the Bmr lowering springs I believe 1" drop When I installed 15" kit which uses stock modified control arms and adjustable trailing arms My alignment guy said he could only get the rear camber to about -1 maxed out with the new eccentric camber bolts but then the tow was off/out so with the toe set correct my camber is at -1.75 I was hoping to get my camber at 0 and I've seen many able to get to 0 with the aftermarket eccentric bolts even lowered as much as 2" such as in this thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...Lowered+camber Is there any way to adjust the toe after you get the camber set?

07-15-2016, 09:33 AM	#7
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Damn Pete, why can't your shop be in Arizona!! __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

07-14-2016, 04:16 PM	#2
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Your tech didn't know how to use them. The toe and camber in the rear act just like an A arm. They fight each other. He had to put the toe eccentrics in a neutral position, where the eccentric does not touch the alignment 'fences' on either side, and adjust camber first. Print this post and this page. http://www.jpssonline.com/the-book-f...-2010-camaro-2 Go back and have it redone. Tell him he can send me $100 for schooling him ;-)

07-14-2016, 04:49 PM	#3
atxcamaross Drives: '10 Camaro SS CGM Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 126	He said the max he could get the camber was about -1 with the aftermarket eccentric bolts but then the toe was way too far off

07-14-2016, 06:13 PM	#5
atxcamaross Drives: '10 Camaro SS CGM Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 126	I bought the Bmr can eccentric bolts http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...productid=1576

07-14-2016, 08:10 PM	#6
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	They are a copy of my bolts first done for the G8 so the should work. The tech needs to read my instructions and realign your car.

07-16-2016, 12:23 PM	#10
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Thank you for the kind word Olddudesrule. Update. We are checking the modified lower control arms to see if they may be the source of the camber issue. EDIT: I should say we are working with the OP to verify the length of the modified LCAs.

07-16-2016, 09:45 PM	#11
atxcamaross Drives: '10 Camaro SS CGM Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 126	Sorry I don't want to unbolt the arms for fear of screwing my alignment up. How about I just measure center to center as best I can?

07-17-2016, 10:13 PM	#13
atxcamaross Drives: '10 Camaro SS CGM Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 126	Ok center to center was a hair unde 20" as well. I'd say 19 15/16"

07-18-2016, 07:05 AM	#14
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	That is close. Have the alignment tech elongate the sub-frame slots.