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madmax13 · 04-09-2014, 06:14 PM

What can I get away with without a tune? Don't ready to void my warranty... CAI, and that is about it?

cornerspeed92 · 04-09-2014, 06:32 PM

From my experience.I had a 2011 1LT RS that i put headers etc.on and made absolutely no difference.I was told that it wouldn't make a difference til it was tuned and then all that was done would come into play.I wont do anything to my 1LE til it's paid for and i am willing to void the warranty with a tune.

S3XPanther · 04-09-2014, 06:39 PM

You'll probably get away with headers too.

JDP Sales · 04-09-2014, 06:44 PM

Pretty much limited to an Intake, TB, catch can and cat-back. You can run headers without a tune, but will get a check engine light.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

madmax13 · 04-09-2014, 06:54 PM

Thanks, guys. Was wondering about a TB, if it wouldn't help with throttle response if nothing else. Didn't figure that headers would do much w/o a tune, 5hp? Not worth it. Also heard that they can cause more issues than just a check engine.

Fraxum · 04-09-2014, 06:55 PM

LTs you can feel on the LS3 with or without a tune 100% for sure. Also a good CAI setup you can feel by the seat of your pants.

I run CAI CAI, scoop, ported TB, Wedge (lol), 1 7/8 LTs, and high flow cats. All with no tune. Never had my 1LE on a dyno but I am sure I am over 400 at the wheels and have run as fast as 12.3 in the 1/4. I do get CELs but no harm done, I just read them and turn them off with a $50 code editor. The standard software will not let the car run lean. An annoyance but no harm to the engine. Later you can remove all this stuff and sell it if buying another car. And also turn off a CEL if present and your car is back to stock. Been there, done that.

With the above you can get Kooks "Green" cats and get very few CELs and possibly none. But they cost more.

A tune is more fun as you can turn off the CELs forever, get rid of torque management, raise the rev limiter, and lean out the fuel air mix for a little more power (5-10 RWHP). But of course the dealer will know, if they check.

If you do a cam, heads, superchargers or turbos, or NO2, then you must tune.

If you want the fastest 1LE you possible and have no CELs or warranty issues do this:

CAI CAI
Scoop
ARH shorties
Solo High Flow cats (ARH high flow cats?)
Ported TB

There is also a discussion of a Chevy head/cam combo that might be cool with the warranty, but still more to come on that.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349523

madmax13 · 04-09-2014, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraxum

LTs you can feel on the LS3 with or without a tune 100% for sure. Also a good CAI setup you can feel by the seat of your pants.

I run CAI CAI, scoop, ported TB, Wedge (lol), 1 7/8 LTs, and high flow cats. All with no tune. Never had my 1LE on a dyno but I am sure I am over 400 at the wheels and have run as fast as 12.3 in the 1/4. I do get CELs but no harm done, I just read them and turn them off with a $50 code editor. The standard software will not let the car run lean. An annoyance but no harm to the engine. Later you can remove all this stuff and sell it if buying another car. And also turn off a CEL if present and your car is back to stock. Been there, done that.

With the above you can get Kooks "Green" cats and get very few CELs and possibly none. But they cost more.

A tune is more fun as you can turn off the CELs forever, get rid of torque management, raise the rev limiter, and lean out the fuel air mix for a little more power (5-10 RWHP). But of course the dealer will know, if they check.

If you do a cam, heads, superchargers or turbos, or NO2, then you must tune.

If you want the fastest 1LE you possible and have no CELs or warranty issues do this:

CAI CAI
Scoop
ARH shorties
Solo High Flow cats (ARH high flow cats?)
Ported TB

There is also a discussion of a Chevy head/cam combo that might be cool with the warranty, but still more to come on that.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349523

Thanks. What is a Wedge? I would be all over that head/cam package if it were warrantied, but I doubt it will ever happen.

Had a tune in my boosted goat, just don't want to mess with this car too much (so good out of the box).

sengli · 04-10-2014, 07:56 AM

save your money for some extra bling. Theres nothing wrong with leaving it stock.

JambaJuiced · 04-10-2014, 10:26 AM

I would say a CAI...possibly a TB for better throttle response...

You can also do just the SOLO or JBA HFCs...a majority of people do not get a CEL just using them and it should free up some HP...

It sounds like you are hesitant so I would stick to things that can easily be changed back...

Fraxum · 04-10-2014, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmax13

Thanks. What is a Wedge? I would be all over that head/cam package if it were warrantied, but I doubt it will ever happen.

Had a tune in my boosted goat, just don't want to mess with this car too much (so good out of the box).

Here you go. I have one I couldn't resist.

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/angling-fo...r-power-wedge/

04-09-2014, 06:14 PM	#1
madmax13 Drives: '13 2SS/RS/1LE/NPP Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 130	Non-tune boltons? What can I get away with without a tune? Don't ready to void my warranty... CAI, and that is about it?

04-09-2014, 06:32 PM	#2
cornerspeed92 Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,188 View My Garage	From my experience.I had a 2011 1LT RS that i put headers etc.on and made absolutely no difference.I was told that it wouldn't make a difference til it was tuned and then all that was done would come into play.I wont do anything to my 1LE til it's paid for and i am willing to void the warranty with a tune. __________________

04-09-2014, 06:39 PM	#3
S3XPanther by Odeon Drives: '12 SS/RS A6 IOM SOLD, '13 1LE IOM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Good question Posts: 1,707	You'll probably get away with headers too. __________________ "It works 60% of the time, every time." "Some say it's a waste of time, others say it's an incredible waste of time." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." 2013 IOM SS/RS - 1LE. Born 5/6/2013 (1 of 32 1SS IOM 1LE's)

04-09-2014, 06:55 PM	#6
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	LTs you can feel on the LS3 with or without a tune 100% for sure. Also a good CAI setup you can feel by the seat of your pants. I run CAI CAI, scoop, ported TB, Wedge (lol), 1 7/8 LTs, and high flow cats. All with no tune. Never had my 1LE on a dyno but I am sure I am over 400 at the wheels and have run as fast as 12.3 in the 1/4. I do get CELs but no harm done, I just read them and turn them off with a $50 code editor. The standard software will not let the car run lean. An annoyance but no harm to the engine. Later you can remove all this stuff and sell it if buying another car. And also turn off a CEL if present and your car is back to stock. Been there, done that. With the above you can get Kooks "Green" cats and get very few CELs and possibly none. But they cost more. A tune is more fun as you can turn off the CELs forever, get rid of torque management, raise the rev limiter, and lean out the fuel air mix for a little more power (5-10 RWHP). But of course the dealer will know, if they check. If you do a cam, heads, superchargers or turbos, or NO2, then you must tune. If you want the fastest 1LE you possible and have no CELs or warranty issues do this: CAI CAI Scoop ARH shorties Solo High Flow cats (ARH high flow cats?) Ported TB There is also a discussion of a Chevy head/cam combo that might be cool with the warranty, but still more to come on that. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349523 __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives. Last edited by Fraxum; 04-09-2014 at 07:11 PM.

04-10-2014, 07:56 AM	#8
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04-09-2014, 06:44 PM	#4
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	Pretty much limited to an Intake, TB, catch can and cat-back. You can run headers without a tune, but will get a check engine light. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

04-09-2014, 06:54 PM	#5
madmax13 Drives: '13 2SS/RS/1LE/NPP Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 130	Thanks, guys. Was wondering about a TB, if it wouldn't help with throttle response if nothing else. Didn't figure that headers would do much w/o a tune, 5hp? Not worth it. Also heard that they can cause more issues than just a check engine.

04-10-2014, 10:26 AM	#9
JambaJuiced Drives: 2013 2SS/RS 1LE AGM Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 115	I would say a CAI...possibly a TB for better throttle response... You can also do just the SOLO or JBA HFCs...a majority of people do not get a CEL just using them and it should free up some HP... It sounds like you are hesitant so I would stick to things that can easily be changed back...