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boxmonkeyracing · 10-10-2011, 06:16 PM

4th gens were a fluke. GM had the Z already in production. SLP came to GM with an idea and they labeled it an SS. Only reason the SS cost more then the Z in the 4th gens. and most 4th gen SS's were Z28/SS's. if the SS had a special place as the Z does for the camaro then they would have always produced an SS camaro. so many people have things mixed up because of the 4th gens.

Fightinfire921 · 10-10-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh at some of these statements..

Since when did a Z28 ever cost more than an SS? I can't remember it ever happening, as the Z28 was generally lighter, and less powerful. So now, you want to make it more powerful than an SS and a better overall car...and more expensive...

Just can't help but laugh at that..

After reading your statement I had to pull Jerry's book out and look at window stickers for 69's. Depending on the options some Z/28's were more expensive then COPO's.

DevilsReject97 · 10-10-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

4th gens were a fluke. GM had the Z already in production. SLP came to GM with an idea and they labeled it an SS. Only reason the SS cost more then the Z in the 4th gens. and most 4th gen SS's were Z28/SS's. if the SS had a special place as the Z does for the camaro then they would have always produced an SS camaro. so many people have things mixed up because of the 4th gens.

But if you notice, the SS cars got the most HP despite that..... they were the more expensive cars....and that's what I'm getting at...

Not to mention, when it comes to bragging rights on the 1/4 mile track (which most car guys care about) the SS was the king.. in EVERY Chevy model...

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Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

After reading your statement I had to pull Jerry's book out and look at window stickers for 69's. Depending on the options some Z/28's were more expensive then COPO's.

Options change the game though, as I could option build a 1SS 5th Gen to crack 40k...despite costing just 30k brand new...

*DGthe3* · 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh at some of these statements..

Since when did a Z28 ever cost more than an SS? I can't remember it ever happening, as the Z28 was generally lighter, and less powerful. So now, you want to make it more powerful than an SS and a better overall car...and more expensive...

Just can't help but laugh at that..

Well ... the Z28 was more expensive in the 1st gen, and was faster than most SSs in a straight line (and would have killed them on a roadcourse). After the 1st gen ... I don't think GM hasn't made a Z28 & an SS at the same time, since they didn't actually make the 4th gen SS's.

boxmonkeyracing · 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

But if you notice, the SS cars got the most HP despite that..... they were the more expensive cars....and that's what I'm getting at...

Not to mention, when it comes to bragging rights on the 1/4 mile track (which most car guys care about) the SS was the king.. in EVERY Chevy model...

That makes me laugh. maybe in the good ole usa. don't kid yourself. 1/4 mile times are a joke. all they shower is acceleration not what a car is really capable of.

you can keep believing the SS was king. that's ok.

Fightinfire921 · 10-10-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

But if you notice, the SS cars got the most HP despite that..... they were the more expensive cars....and that's what I'm getting at...

Not to mention, when it comes to bragging rights on the 1/4 mile track (which most car guys care about) the SS was the king.. in EVERY Chevy model...

Options change the game though, as I could option build a 1SS 5th Gen to crack 40k...despite costing just 30k brand new...

You better check and see what Chevrolet models has a SS emblem.

All basic 1969 Camaros started at $2726.00 and went up as the year progressed. VIN 709540 (late Oct. 1969) topped out at $2816.00.
Add the options and get the price. SS cars were not always the top dollar car.

Guess who has VIN 704511.

GEEo · 10-10-2011, 10:49 PM

Don't lose hope my mhan!!

Sterling · 10-10-2011, 10:53 PM

I predict that the Z-28 will be a turbocharged V6... especially since we've seen how nicely some turbo's would mount up to the new 1 piece head/exhaust manifold.

Fightinfire921 · 10-10-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sterling

I predict that the Z-28 will be a turbocharged V6... especially since we've seen how nicely some turbo's would mount up to the new 1 piece head/exhaust manifold.

2cnd chance · 10-10-2011, 11:01 PM

This thread reminds me of the early beginnings of the "Big" Z28 thread. Are we really going to start over???

boxmonkeyracing · 10-10-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sterling

I predict that the Z-28 will be a turbocharged V6... especially since we've seen how nicely some turbo's would mount up to the new 1 piece head/exhaust manifold.

I predict you are wrong.

see how easy that is? why waist the weight on expensive turbo setup, when either an LS7 or a new GenV V8 will be available? more reliable then a turbo setup and cost more then likely about the same.

Fightinfire921 · 10-10-2011, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This thread reminds me of the early beginnings of the "Big" Z28 thread. Are we really going to start over???

O' hell no!!
We're getting the ZL1 crowd now.

Sterling · 10-11-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I predict you are wrong.

see how easy that is? why waist the weight on expensive turbo setup, when either an LS7 or a new GenV V8 will be available? more reliable then a turbo setup and cost more then likely about the same.

Because the LS7 is going away and the new GenV V8 will be in the SS.

kudzu74 · 10-11-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thePill

Compared to the original 2006 concept and the 2010 production car, I love the Z28 concept.

Its crap dude...sorry.

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