2010 camaro SS vs. 2009 nissan skyline

[patSS]

Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

Dude, the GTR destroyed all the cars off the line and it would win in the 1/4 mile. That video was a mile long drag, not a 1/4 mile.

Trust me, I love the ZR1, but with AWD and it's quick transmission (launch control) it can't be beat off the line.

You do realize a ZR1 has run 10s in the 1/4 right? How does the GTR "destroy" the zr1. The zr1 handles better, is faster in the 1/4 mile, mile, 1/2 mile, 4 miles, higher top speed.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by patSS

You do realize a ZR1 has run 10s in the 1/4 right? How does the GTR "destroy" the zr1. The zr1 handles better, is faster in the 1/4 mile, mile, 1/2 mile, 4 miles, higher top speed.

Even the ZO6 is 10's cabable with the right driver and tires. Hell I bet you could get a stock powered ZR1 close to the 9's with the correct suspension, wheels, tires, driver and track.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

...Hell I bet you could get a stock powered ZR1 close to the 9's with the correct suspension, wheels, tires, driver and track.

that makes the GTR's value as an overall badass performer all the more incredible since it runs only 3 seconds slower around the 'Ring than the zr1!!

[patSS]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

that makes the GTR's value as an overall badass performer all the more incredible since it runs only 3 seconds slower around the 'Ring than the zr1!!

3 seconds is a lot around the track. It's the difference between a GT500 and SS.... So would you say the SS is better than the GT500?

[cyber_satan]

Originally Posted by DarthNacho08

one that can beat ferrari's

And a zonda

[jrc1122]

I've seen several tests in the 11s.. Wesman,, we've been down this road a thousand times.

I respect the fact that you have an opinion, but not how you form them. You need to be balanced to be taken serious.

I can pull up videos of the New Camaro SS running 14 second quarter miles. But I wouldn't dare claim that the 2010/11 Camaro SS is a 14 second car.

The Facts are the facts.. The fastest stock times are in the 11s on the drag strip, and a very impressive road course numbers around some world renowned tracks.
Spare me the cheating tires, or the crappy transmission argument.

Transmission issue was solved along time ago, and not sure where the tire issue stands, but anyone buying an 80k sports car.. Can probably afford any set of tires they want.

So I don't think that is a valid reason to throw the car under the bus.. Well its pretty awesome (if you add these tires)

Okay-- throw those tires on there and charge me for them.

And when all else fails, and you are forced to say, yes it handles super great, and accelerates extremely fast,,, then you bring up the electronics of the car and the technology and engineering that went into the car, to somehow discredit it from being a "real" car or a real time.

LOL---

[patSS]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

I've seen several tests in the 11s.. Wesman,, we've been down this road a thousand times.

I respect the fact that you have an opinion, but not how you form them. You need to be balanced to be taken serious.

I can pull up videos of the New Camaro SS running 14 second quarter miles. But I wouldn't dare claim that the 2010/11 Camaro SS is a 14 second car.

The Facts are the facts.. The fastest stock times are in the 11s on the drag strip, and a very impressive road course numbers around some world renowned tracks.
Spare me the cheating tires, or the crappy transmission argument.

Transmission issue was solved along time ago, and not sure where the tire issue stands, but anyone buying an 80k sports car.. Can probably afford any set of tires they want.

So I don't think that is a valid reason to throw the car under the bus.. Well its pretty awesome (if you add these tires)

Okay-- throw those tires on there and charge me for them.

And when all else fails, and you are forced to say, yes it handles super great, and accelerates extremely fast,,, then you bring up the electronics of the car and the technology and engineering that went into the car, to somehow discredit it from being a "real" car or a real time.

LOL---

Dude a ZR1 ran 10.x bone stock. How is the GTR better? A z06 can outrun a GTR and it's 10k less and a lot sexier. GTR is a good car but it's not as amazing as you think it is. For $85k I would want a LOT more than a simple 485hp 12 second AWD car, then again that's just me and I'd never buy an import with the American auto industry in so much trouble.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by patSS

3 seconds is a lot around the track. It's the difference between a GT500 and SS.... So would you say the SS is better than the GT500?

wow then that makes the fact that the GTR ran the ring a full 13 seconds faster than the Z06 even more impressive, especially since the z06 is in its price range. With these cars, its not ALL about speed, its about being able to utilize that speed. The GTR seems to excel on the road course i guess!!

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by patSS

Dude a ZR1 ran 10.x bone stock. How is the GTR better? A z06 can outrun a GTR and it's 10k less and a lot sexier. GTR is a good car but it's not as amazing as you think it is. For $85k I would want a LOT more than a simple 485hp 12 second AWD car, then again that's just me and I'd never buy an import with the American auto industry in so much trouble.

You are arguing with yourself. I never said the GTR was faster than the ZR1.

Oh yeah,, It's an 11 second car, not a 12 second car.

[patSS]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

You are arguing with yourself. I never said the GTR was faster than the ZR1.

Oh yeah,, It's an 11 second car, not a 12 second car.

Oops then.

Is it really 11s? That's impressive I guess. The 2009 GTR at my track runs 12.3 all day long, thus why I thought it to be a 12 second car.

[Entaille]

you guys are hilarious, judging the car solely on it's quarter mile time? the value in the GTR comes from a lot more then going in a straight line.

not that it matters.. but the car pulls mid 11s in it's sleep in stock form.

I also find it entertaining that the mustang guys appear to be more open minded / car enthusiasts .. but then again, they are posting on a camaro forum, so they have to be : )

I loveeee my camaro, it just shouldn't be compared to a car that costs twice as much.

[jrc1122]

[F13body]

Originally Posted by Supermans

Yes, the 2009 GTR is in a league or class where you have to compare it to other supercars, not a Camaro and not even a ZR1 Corvette.

Here is a closer race between a Lambo and a GTR..

i personaly believe a ZR1 will eat a GTR anyday, or in my hands it would. and on that note

[F13body]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Dude, are you comprehending what exactly your saying? Your saying being "nearly as fast", with the addition ofyour opinion that the GTR is a better engineered car, is what makes it a better car than the Z06. That's ridiculous,....and ignorant of you to say. Your putting forward a false premise; what makes a GTR a better engineered car than a Z06 when a Z06 outperforms it?! What, it's AWD system and the fact that it's overweight?!

I'm seriously beginning to think you are a troll. Seems like you think the GTR is better simply because it isn't a Chevy, while showing no reason as to why. Sorry, being "nearly as fast" doesn't make the slower car the better car. You keep overlooking the fact that a Z06 destroys a GTR in straight line acceleration, every time. A GTR isn't even "nearly as fast" as a Z06,....check the mph different between the two; it's more than simply "car lengths" apart. A handling advantage doesn't make one car superior than the next, when it's actually a slower car.

Slower cars with better or equal handling = superior. - Evil Twin

layin down the facts