02-05-2014, 02:06 PM | #31053 |
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I would agree with Dannie, I don't think any insurance will cover racing on a track unless you specify it and then they'd probably cancel on you lol
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02-05-2014, 02:30 PM | #31054 |
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I called. They said I'm good. It's not a race.
i will look into the agreement more when i get home.
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02-05-2014, 04:27 PM | #31055 | |
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it's possible you might get it covered, as I have heard it happen, sometimes you get a claims adjuster that is good but you might also run into the claims adjuster that likes to read the policy literally and screw with people.. I do know companies that specifically provide track insurance, which is what the dude that racked the ZL1 at Fontana had from places like Lockton Affinity.... Hopefully you never have to find out if you have coverage for it.
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My policy is pretty clear, for "loss" or "bodily injury" coverage does not apply ..."During any organized or agreed-upon racing or speed contest or demonstration in which your insured car has active participation, or in practice or preparation for any such contest." All other threads about this I have seen all say the same thing...that you aren't covered by your regular insurance at the track..... |
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02-05-2014, 04:45 PM | #31057 | |
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Do you think it would be a good idea to skip the race tires and just run Micheline PSS's on my Modulares and use them for racing. I am going to spend the about the same amount of money if I do invo's on Modulare's and NT05's for the race set, but if I do this, I won't have to swap wheels everytime we race. Mark at Nitrous Garage doesn't think I should race with the Modulares, but I don't see the problem. I have an email into Peter to see what he says. |
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02-05-2014, 05:00 PM | #31058 | |
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Chuck, the 295/35-20's in the Ferrari XL105 configuration are 12" wide tread width, which is not far off the 315 width of 12.3, but they are shorter which with 275/35-20, you would be about .5" different in outside diameter...anyway, Michelin doesn't make a 275/40-20 from looking, so check the specs on other sizes to see what will match close enough in outside diameters.
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02-05-2014, 05:01 PM | #31059 |
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...A couple of other posts about the insurance stuff for your consideration...
Quote: Originally Posted by 90503 Interesting....always wonder about this....even "non-racing" events still post lap times, in order, sort of like a "first place to last place" list...a faster lap time gets you placed towards the front of your run group...kind of makes it "competitive".....lol... seems "racing" could be not totally clearly defined....or subject to interpretation....maybe not so bad for mechanical warranty as opposed (and hopefully not confused) with insurance and liability...lol.... An event host publicly displaying timing sheets runs the risk of causing their attendees track collision insurance (if they have it) to be voided. I understand exactly what you are referring to, for example Speed Ventures does that. It's still an HPDE event as the times are not for the explicit purpose of scoring a competitive event. A manufacturer should understand this as well and therefore these times should not affect warranty. Cars in a Time Attack type event where cars run explicitly competitively for time would usually not be covered by warranty. Maybe you get lucky and the dealer covers it, but the door is open for a decline. In regards to insurance (vs warranty): Anyone driving their car on a "racing surface" for any reason would be strongly advised to contact their insurance agent beforehand or to plan on being self-insured from the moment they do until they leave the "surface". There are a couple insurance companies who explicitly cover HPDE events such as Lockton-Affinity. Someone will want to argue this but the 99% true fact is, unless your insurance extends incredible one-time goodwill, street insurance will not cover on-track crash damage. None of this should a grey area for a given event when subjected to objective consideration, it should be easy and straightforward for a driver to determine what kind of risk he is subjecting himself to for a given event. An on-track crash, not covered by insurance, of a financed car can be a catastrophically life changing event. Don't trust internet know-it-alls, do your homework. I've personally done over 100 track days with a variety of hosts and I've hosted my own events so what I write is from that perspective. __________________ |
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02-05-2014, 05:30 PM | #31061 | |
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If you're going to buy this, see if you can get a multiple event rate, it works out cheaper, because one day for a $40k car is about $200.00 when I checked... And I know people that have had the regular car insurance company pay for on track crashes, and were summarily canceled right after, but it is a risk to hope they wlll cover and who wants a crashed/totaled $40k car without insurance to fix it or replace it.
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02-05-2014, 05:33 PM | #31062 |
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I'll take my chances without track insurance for auto-x events....but for faster tracks, with other cars right around you, I think it's worth the extra insurance, just in case....
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02-05-2014, 05:40 PM | #31063 |
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I don't know if I'll do autox the 15th. I'm buying wheels, so I'd have to buy tires and a helmet. I'm gonna pass on this one
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02-05-2014, 06:00 PM | #31064 |
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$295
this will be a rare event, ha ha.
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02-05-2014, 06:02 PM | #31065 | |
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from Peter at Modulare. The wheels we build are limited to on-road use only....those are certified to SAE J2530 which is for street. Unfortunately, there is no way for us to test them for racing, so I would avoid racing on them and use the stock wheels for that. |
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02-05-2014, 07:11 PM | #31066 |
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CT..ditch those nto5! Nt01 are the tire they make for tracks.
I think tires for tracks are as much a saftey issue as performance...those nt05 get greasy at road course temps. Dannie should be a Michelin salesman
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