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Old 08-24-2008, 07:01 PM   #155
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even with 200 more pounds the Stang will still be much lighter than the Maro 3500 pounds vs 3900 pounds lol.... we will see on the Motor upgrade it may surprise us all... Ford knows it needs to compete in order to maintain market leadership...
You have valid arguments...however, I believe part of Ford success has been because they offer low prices. Yes, the new camaro and challenger are better quality each having their own perks as far as interior and such, but realize the mustang appeals GREATLY to youth and women who arent ethusiasts. As much as we all may be love the american motor...we are the minority these days. We may argument the mustang has a cheap interior, but with rebates you can get a V8 GT for less than 25k now...a regular ole college student (which a majority of my friends are)...their eyes light up when they hear that. You add 5k for a base camaro, 10k for the package we all want... EVEN THOUGH I truly feel its a step above, it is just out of the reach of most...

I can see Ford adding 30-50 hp, doing a facelift, and minor touches in the interior, but not as drastic as many seem to be saying. Hell the concepts I have seen just look like a rounded and smoothed out version of the current vehicle...Ford's prices keep them in the game..I don't see them tampering with that.
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:05 PM   #156
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does anyone know if the SS stock rear spoiler is going to be a lip or an actual wing like the one they showed on the red camaro with the ground effects, hockey stripes and black wheels a couple months ago?
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:10 PM   #157
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when ever has ford cared about performance for there regular v6 or GT models... my stock ls1 eats 05 gt's alive im pretty sure the ls3 will do the same even if it weight 4800
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:10 PM   #158
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Man, I sure am trying, but I don't really notice the huge differences you guys are seeing between the bumpers in the different models. Sure, the grill looks a little different, but what about the actual bumper?

Granted, I am just now trying to get into the whole muscle car 'scene', so little subtleties like these make it that much harder. Anyone care to explain?
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:11 PM   #159
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does anyone know if the SS stock rear spoiler is going to be a lip or an actual wing like the one they showed on the red camaro with the ground effects, hockey stripes and black wheels a couple months ago?
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:15 PM   #160
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Not sure that this helps a whole lot but when I put my deposite down with the dealership we talked about pricing and we used a top dog price from the last year the Camaro was produced as a comparison (worse case senario). Keep in mind this was CANADIAN DOLLARS and the number was $43,765.94, so take about 10K off of that and your probably pretty close to the US cost.
i got my ss used in 2004 for 15k???? wow what dealer did you go to i dont want to ever go there ....
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:18 PM   #161
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aww ok I want the big spoiler...I guess I'm just gonna have to pay for that if it is available

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Old 08-25-2008, 12:22 AM   #162
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damn... i was hoping the Brembo's would be red so I don't have to pull em off and break out the caliper paint... aww well, maybe GM will surprise me @ launch.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:25 AM   #163
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guys nothin for nothin it's not that impressive to me I was expecting an air-dam & maybe a wing on the deck.
except the saying is "not for nothing". are you italian, or just pretending to be one? real italian - turn your colors in. you fail.
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Old 08-25-2008, 03:59 AM   #164
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I'm going to laugh when in 2010 all the Mustang guys get a slight facelift, an extra 20-40 horses, and a couple hundred pounds.
yeah, and they might change the car, too.
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:03 AM   #165
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i got my ss used in 2004 for 15k???? wow what dealer did you go to i dont want to ever go there ....
you said used... he's talking new. BIG difference.

all new cars take a depreciation hit when they cross the curb out of the dealership. it's all about the first year. i know i can wait one or two model years and then buy one used for about half what they cost new. it's just the nature of the beast.

this is also why the first year's payments are all interest. the bank wants to be sure they get their money up front as opposed to in later years. if they waited for their money, people would never be "uypside down" on their loan (owing more than the car is worth) because you would be making principal-only payments. the only way out of this is to pay off the loan early or pay cash for the car. either way, you still take the hit on depreciation.
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:11 AM   #166
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I'd really like to see the 5.0 in the stang again and IMO if they give it 375hp it will run with the maro. That being said, I doubt it will get indy suspension and it will gain some weight. After I install a CIA and full exhaust on the maro I'm really gonna focus on weight reduction because the power is there. It's going to be my fair weather driver so I could do without some of the safety equipment.
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when ever has ford cared about performance for there regular v6 or GT models... my stock ls1 eats 05 gt's alive im pretty sure the ls3 will do the same even if it weight 4800
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Man, I sure am trying, but I don't really notice the huge differences you guys are seeing between the bumpers in the different models. Sure, the grill looks a little different, but what about the actual bumper?

Granted, I am just now trying to get into the whole muscle car 'scene', so little subtleties like these make it that much harder. Anyone care to explain?
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:05 AM   #168
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I hope Ford does upgrade the Mustang, more power, better interior, etc. I don't think Dodge will be around in 5 years so Chevy needs competition from Ford to continue to improve the Camaro.
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