TR-6060 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-25-2007, 01:23 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/07/chicago-auto-show-gm-rwd-fans-can-rejoice-for-the-pontiac-g8-h/

So I was goofing around the Web, when I came across the gear ratios for the TR-6060 found in the New Vette, and the soon to come G8...

So I plugged them into my Forza racing simulator Game (for kicks), and found some real interesting stuff.

First off, the TR-6060 is VERY similar in gearing to the Z51 gearing in the '07 Vettes. The first four gears are placed reasonably apart (on an LS2 vette), if a bit widely spaced...but then you get to the last 2 OD gears...when you go from a 6500 rpm red-line in 4th to 5th, your rpms drop right smack into the middle of the power band. Somewhere around 5800 - 6000, very nice. It's nuts, though, because - although this is just a game - it becomes pinfully obvious that even with the lower FDR, 6th gear becomes strictly an economy gear - from a 6500 redline in 5th you drop to almost 3800-4000 rpms. Not cool while racing at 180 mph...

again this IS just a game's simulation, but untill someone gets to tryout the
Nurburgring, or some Massive Tarmac (to get up that fast), I think this is as close as I'll ever get.

Here are the Ratio's of the T-56 vs. the TR-6060 and the Z51 tranny (in that order):

____T-56__TR-6060__Z51____

1 -- 2.66.......3.01......2.97
2 -- 1.78.......2.07......2.07
3 -- 1.30.......1.43......1.43
4 -- 1.00.......1.00......1.00
5 -- 0.74.......0.84......0.71
6 -- 0.50.......0.57......0.57

FDR..3.42.......3.27......3.42

I thought I'd share, whether anybody takes a games word for it, or not (I don't).

AirGoya · 08-25-2007, 10:37 AM

It is just a video game...
But you get an "A" for effort

*DGthe3* · 08-25-2007, 11:09 AM

Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-25-2007, 12:34 PM

Game or not, I kinda figured that something like that might happen, look at the step between 4th and 5th (.16), and then 5th and 6th (.27)....:eek:

TFord · 08-25-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

Yup thats exactly what forza is, the cars in that game respond damn near exactly as they would in real life.

nice work dragon!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-25-2007, 05:01 PM

Thanks,

.
Respond exactly is right, except on grass. Get's real sticky in some random patches...but,

Still, I kinda like this TR-6060. If your going Highway cruising, it seems to be designed to skip 5th. just my 0.02.

If anybody ever gets to drive the '08 Vette, be sure to let us know what it's like, okay?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-31-2007, 05:09 PM

I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

JeepinMatt · 08-31-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

Nope. It's a good transmission

TFord · 09-01-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepinMatt

Nope. It's a good transmission

ditto

AirGoya · 09-01-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.

I think Gran Turismo is one of the best. I have all four. Its called the real driving simulator so its gotta be good

TFord · 09-01-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirGoya

I think Gran Turismo is one of the best. I have all four. Its called the real driving simulator so its gotta be good

GT dosent do it for me....hell the original forza was a much better simulator than GT4. GT is severly lackin in every aspect to even be considered a true simulator....just my 2 cents

Dan · 09-01-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products?

No, GM, Ford, and Chrysler all proved a long time ago they cant build a transmission worth a damn.

JeepinMatt · 09-01-2007, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

No, GM, Ford, and Chrysler all proved a long time ago they cant build a transmission worth a damn.

Ahh I wouldn't go that far. As far as automatics, the General builds some of the best, strongest and most reliable ones out there. They have for years. Very popular in drag and off road racing. Chrysler's TorqueFlite is the same way. If it's strong enough for monster trucks, it's strong enough for a half tonner. Not as much experience with Ford, but those two are some of the most respected slushboxes around.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 09-01-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepinMatt

Ahh I wouldn't go that far. As far as automatics, the General builds some of the best, strongest and most reliable ones out there. They have for years. Very popular in drag and off road racing. Chrysler's TorqueFlite is the same way. If it's strong enough for monster trucks, it's strong enough for a half tonner. Not as much experience with Ford, but those two are some of the most respected slushboxes around.

Right! GM still makes Automatics of their own. And especially with this 6L80, it's one of the best there is! I was just surprised when heard that the Tremecs weren't made or designed by GM...

08-25-2007, 01:23 AM	#1
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,877 View My Garage	TR-6060 http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/07/chicago-auto-show-gm-rwd-fans-can-rejoice-for-the-pontiac-g8-h/ So I was goofing around the Web, when I came across the gear ratios for the TR-6060 found in the New Vette, and the soon to come G8... So I plugged them into my Forza racing simulator Game (for kicks), and found some real interesting stuff. First off, the TR-6060 is VERY similar in gearing to the Z51 gearing in the '07 Vettes. The first four gears are placed reasonably apart (on an LS2 vette), if a bit widely spaced...but then you get to the last 2 OD gears...when you go from a 6500 rpm red-line in 4th to 5th, your rpms drop right smack into the middle of the power band. Somewhere around 5800 - 6000, very nice. It's nuts, though, because - although this is just a game - it becomes pinfully obvious that even with the lower FDR, 6th gear becomes strictly an economy gear - from a 6500 redline in 5th you drop to almost 3800-4000 rpms. Not cool while racing at 180 mph... again this IS just a game's simulation, but untill someone gets to tryout the Nurburgring, or some Massive Tarmac (to get up that fast), I think this is as close as I'll ever get. Here are the Ratio's of the T-56 vs. the TR-6060 and the Z51 tranny (in that order): ____T-56__TR-6060__Z51____ 1 -- 2.66.......3.01......2.97 2 -- 1.78.......2.07......2.07 3 -- 1.30.......1.43......1.43 4 -- 1.00.......1.00......1.00 5 -- 0.74.......0.84......0.71 6 -- 0.50.......0.57......0.57 FDR..3.42.......3.27......3.42 I thought I'd share, whether anybody takes a games word for it, or not (I don't). __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-25-2007, 10:37 AM	#2
AirGoya Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago/Carbondale Posts: 815	It is just a video game... But you get an "A" for effort __________________ -Tim

08-25-2007, 12:34 PM	#4
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,877 View My Garage	Game or not, I kinda figured that something like that might happen, look at the step between 4th and 5th (.16), and then 5th and 6th (.27)....:eek: __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-25-2007, 05:01 PM	#6
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,877 View My Garage	Thanks, . Respond exactly is right, except on grass. Get's real sticky in some random patches...but, Still, I kinda like this TR-6060. If your going Highway cruising, it seems to be designed to skip 5th. just my 0.02. If anybody ever gets to drive the '08 Vette, be sure to let us know what it's like, okay? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-31-2007, 05:09 PM	#7
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,877 View My Garage	I have to ask - and I'm asking honestly - does it bother anybody that the T-56, and TR-6060 aren't GM products? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-25-2007, 11:09 AM	#3
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Isn't Forza supposed to be that ultra realistic racing simulator? Or am I thinking of something else? I know that there is one that came out a couple years ago that is basically the Flight Sim for racing.