Are they slowly killing the looks of the Camaro? - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Rhyder · 07-18-2012, 08:55 PM

seriously? I havent looked but I cant imagine the mylink is mandatory so if you dont want it dont get it, so thats invalid as far as GM killing the looks.

Personally, I dont see the locks moving from the middle to the door being a sever enough visual change to "kill the looks of the camaro" but if it is to you, Im sure you could get with an older camaro owner, one of the many who complained and do some swapping to mod it back to the center and them getting it on the door so that is basicly a non issue as well, dont imagine it would be that difficult a mod if you just wanted to move them to the center either.

The steering wheel I can grant you is a harder nut to crack, but I would say over all theres probably as many who like the new one, Im one of them, as dont.

As far as the wheels, Ive always gotten the cheapest ones available cause I buy new rims and sell the OEM anyways, depending on the OEM rims to uphold a look is risky at best, besides everyone and thier mother having the same ones which makes the looks moot in my opinion.

But I cant see the locks, wheels or steering wheel as destroying the look in the broader sense, a vast majority hating it, which is the arena you put this discussion in.

Now if you had said they were changing the grill to look like an Audi, like one pony I wont mention, or some other nonsense like that, I would say yes they are destroying the look slowly, but the three you mentioned dont hold water for me.

usnatclee · 07-18-2012, 08:56 PM

I think that it is funny we have a door lock on both thye door and on the console in the 2012.

vetteman · 07-18-2012, 08:57 PM

clearly this is all personal taste ...nobody is right or wrong... - I'm just curious what people think....

Personally, I think the wheels for 2013 are less attractive - look like a change for the sake of change - close to the older ones but not as sharp - make the car look more like a rental car...now look at the ZL1 wheels - WOW those are sharp!

I liked the look of the old steering wheel but agree with the complaints that it was not round to hold onto...I would have liked a fix to the real issue people complained about....rather than a wheel from parts bin....

the locks - are neither her nor there...but I liked the fact they were in the center as that made it different....

and the NAV is a great system that needed to be added....

I also think the change to the dash AC/Silver etc is a big improvement to the all plastic that was originally there....

I just wish when they make changes they would do it with the same attention and design detail they use when they create the car and not just rely on the parts bin....

thanks for everyones input!

DandDC09 · 07-18-2012, 08:58 PM

Looks to me like they finally got it right... Killing the 4th gen was the best thing they could have done... Sure they should have done a couple things different like materials of dash and offered a black option in wheels, but it's a retro design with modern amenities! I've been in love wih this car since it was a concept! I think they hit the nail on the head!!

Ladybugsmom · 07-18-2012, 08:59 PM

I agree with some of the OPs comments, which is why I plan to keep my early 2010!!

Iroczlover · 07-18-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladybugsmom

I agree with some of the OPs comments, which is why I plan to keep my early 2010!!

same here

Neto1978 · 07-18-2012, 09:04 PM

Thank god they are not offering chrome clad wheels yet...

MistyBlu10 · 07-18-2012, 09:09 PM

personally i like the new steering wheel but it only looks good in the 45th haha

samhardy2008 · 07-18-2012, 09:23 PM

i like the smaller steering wheel...feels more comfortable for driving

Iroczlover · 07-18-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by samhardy2008

i like the smaller steering wheel...feels more comfortable for driving

smaller steering wheels make it easier for fat bellies to get behind them LIKE MINE lol

Ladybugsmom · 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM

It may be more comfortable, but I just can't get past how much it looks like a uterus...

(Sorry guys....)

StangKiller-SS · 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM

The Camaro you have for 2013 is one more to par with the auto industry at this time. GM has basically worked each year to fix what's been bashed by the industry on the car. Remember The C6 has always used the 2005-2010 company wide 3 spoke steering wheel found on G6's, Cobalt's and etc. C6 has also always used the same nav set up as well with the rest of GM. I don't think they're killing the looks of the Camaro at all, only enhancing the overall product. Lastly I thought it was weird having the power door locks on radio/havoc and blended in when the 2010's were new.

SimpleGreen · 07-18-2012, 09:29 PM

Personally I'm SO glad I have a '12.

That old flat, ugly, boring dashboard was terrible. I'll gladly take my 'leather' trimmed dash even with it's bubble. That steering wheel was atrocious too. I prefer the parts bin piece. The wheels I don't care one way or another. I don't want 20's so it doesn't apply to me, lol.

And the central locking switch? There is no way that cost less than just putting it on the doors to start with. That was a sign of being cheap (not they still aren't).

I LOVE my Camaro, 'flaws' and all. I walked outside earlier with my glass of water in hand just to stare at it for a minute. It came with everything I wanted and nothing I didn't. Well, except for that spare tire that I forgot to get in the deal....

Edit: The nav makes no difference to me, either. Never had it before. That's why I have a smart phone

Already paying for it, may as well use it.

BlueChev · 07-18-2012, 09:37 PM

We drove a 2011 for a weekend and then bought a 2012. In our opinion:

Steering wheel - 2011 looks better, but 2012 feels better.
Door locks - 2012 has both locations....but never use center console button.
Navigation - On-Star has turn by turn directions.
Wheels - don't care for the '13 design.
HUD - wonderful addition
Rear view camera - this was truly a must have - if we'd gotten the '11 would have swapped one in.

Also preferred the full power passenger seat. Wife is a bit shorter and likes to raise the height of her seat.

5th Gen looks great. Period!

07-18-2012, 08:56 PM	#30
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	I think that it is funny we have a door lock on both thye door and on the console in the 2012. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

07-18-2012, 08:58 PM	#32
DandDC09 Drives: '10 2LT/RS, '13 Malibu Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 476	Looks to me like they finally got it right... Killing the 4th gen was the best thing they could have done... Sure they should have done a couple things different like materials of dash and offered a black option in wheels, but it's a retro design with modern amenities! I've been in love wih this car since it was a concept! I think they hit the nail on the head!! __________________

07-18-2012, 08:59 PM	#33
Ladybugsmom Older than I look.... Drives: 2010 VR Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 6,481 View My Garage	I agree with some of the OPs comments, which is why I plan to keep my early 2010!! __________________ High Heels and Fast Wheels!!

07-18-2012, 09:09 PM	#36
MistyBlu10 GOBLIN Drives: 2015 SS Convertable Green Flash Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chesapeake Beach MD Posts: 674 View My Garage	personally i like the new steering wheel but it only looks good in the 45th haha __________________ 2015 2SS Green Flash Edition 2012 Camaro LFX 45th born 9/24/11 sold 4/1/15 2013 Equinox LTZ 2013 Cruze LTZ 2010 LT2 BLUE RS CAMARO TRADED FOR 45TH 2011 COLARADO Z71 TRADED FOR MALABU 2011 MALABU LTZ TRADED FOR BLUE CAMARO 2007 Z71 Avalanche LTZ 1987 K5 Blazer BOWTIES AS BLOOD CELLS GM RULES

07-18-2012, 09:23 PM	#37
samhardy2008 Drives: 2012 3.6 camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tyler Posts: 197	i like the smaller steering wheel...feels more comfortable for driving __________________

07-18-2012, 08:55 PM	#29
Rhyder Drives: 2012 45 Anniversary Vert Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,511	seriously? I havent looked but I cant imagine the mylink is mandatory so if you dont want it dont get it, so thats invalid as far as GM killing the looks. Personally, I dont see the locks moving from the middle to the door being a sever enough visual change to "kill the looks of the camaro" but if it is to you, Im sure you could get with an older camaro owner, one of the many who complained and do some swapping to mod it back to the center and them getting it on the door so that is basicly a non issue as well, dont imagine it would be that difficult a mod if you just wanted to move them to the center either. The steering wheel I can grant you is a harder nut to crack, but I would say over all theres probably as many who like the new one, Im one of them, as dont. As far as the wheels, Ive always gotten the cheapest ones available cause I buy new rims and sell the OEM anyways, depending on the OEM rims to uphold a look is risky at best, besides everyone and thier mother having the same ones which makes the looks moot in my opinion. But I cant see the locks, wheels or steering wheel as destroying the look in the broader sense, a vast majority hating it, which is the arena you put this discussion in. Now if you had said they were changing the grill to look like an Audi, like one pony I wont mention, or some other nonsense like that, I would say yes they are destroying the look slowly, but the three you mentioned dont hold water for me.

07-18-2012, 08:57 PM	#31
vetteman Drives: vette Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CA Posts: 50	clearly this is all personal taste ...nobody is right or wrong... - I'm just curious what people think.... Personally, I think the wheels for 2013 are less attractive - look like a change for the sake of change - close to the older ones but not as sharp - make the car look more like a rental car...now look at the ZL1 wheels - WOW those are sharp! I liked the look of the old steering wheel but agree with the complaints that it was not round to hold onto...I would have liked a fix to the real issue people complained about....rather than a wheel from parts bin.... the locks - are neither her nor there...but I liked the fact they were in the center as that made it different.... and the NAV is a great system that needed to be added.... I also think the change to the dash AC/Silver etc is a big improvement to the all plastic that was originally there.... I just wish when they make changes they would do it with the same attention and design detail they use when they create the car and not just rely on the parts bin.... thanks for everyones input!

07-18-2012, 09:04 PM	#35
Neto1978 Drives: 2011 camaro ss victory red Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sp-brazil Posts: 166	Thank god they are not offering chrome clad wheels yet...

07-18-2012, 09:29 PM	#39
Ladybugsmom Older than I look.... Drives: 2010 VR Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 6,481 View My Garage	It may be more comfortable, but I just can't get past how much it looks like a uterus... (Sorry guys....) __________________ High Heels and Fast Wheels!!

07-18-2012, 09:29 PM	#40
StangKiller-SS Drives: GM products Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,621	The Camaro you have for 2013 is one more to par with the auto industry at this time. GM has basically worked each year to fix what's been bashed by the industry on the car. Remember The C6 has always used the 2005-2010 company wide 3 spoke steering wheel found on G6's, Cobalt's and etc. C6 has also always used the same nav set up as well with the rest of GM. I don't think they're killing the looks of the Camaro at all, only enhancing the overall product. Lastly I thought it was weird having the power door locks on radio/havoc and blended in when the 2010's were new.

07-18-2012, 09:29 PM	#41
SimpleGreen Drives: 2015 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Southeast Louisiana Posts: 2,112	Personally I'm SO glad I have a '12. That old flat, ugly, boring dashboard was terrible. I'll gladly take my 'leather' trimmed dash even with it's bubble. That steering wheel was atrocious too. I prefer the parts bin piece. The wheels I don't care one way or another. I don't want 20's so it doesn't apply to me, lol. And the central locking switch? There is no way that cost less than just putting it on the doors to start with. That was a sign of being cheap (not they still aren't). I LOVE my Camaro, 'flaws' and all. I walked outside earlier with my glass of water in hand just to stare at it for a minute. It came with everything I wanted and nothing I didn't. Well, except for that spare tire that I forgot to get in the deal.... Edit: The nav makes no difference to me, either. Never had it before. That's why I have a smart phone Already paying for it, may as well use it. __________________ 2015 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM 2016 Jeep Wrangler 2DR Willys Wheeler 1993 C1500 Single Cab Stepside 5.3L LS Swap

07-18-2012, 09:37 PM	#42
BlueChev Drives: 2012 SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 58 View My Garage	We drove a 2011 for a weekend and then bought a 2012. In our opinion: Steering wheel - 2011 looks better, but 2012 feels better. Door locks - 2012 has both locations....but never use center console button. Navigation - On-Star has turn by turn directions. Wheels - don't care for the '13 design. HUD - wonderful addition Rear view camera - this was truly a must have - if we'd gotten the '11 would have swapped one in. Also preferred the full power passenger seat. Wife is a bit shorter and likes to raise the height of her seat. 5th Gen looks great. Period! __________________ [/SIGPIC]