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themoneypit · 08-18-2012, 05:28 PM

So I picked mine up friday. Top looks great! Very tight, no cables popping out, I'm very pleased. I haven't cycled it yet, and I was leaving for the weekend right after I picked it up, so I basically got home and put it in the garage... I'll get some pics on tuesday when I get home.

All I can say is demand a gm engineer to install your new top. I did, and couldn't be happier with the appearance!

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cactuseater · 08-19-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by themoneypit

So I picked mine up friday. Top looks great! Very tight, no cables popping out, I'm very pleased. I haven't cycled it yet, and I was leaving for the weekend right after I picked it up, so I basically got home and put it in the garage... I'll get some pics on tuesday when I get home.

All I can say is demand a gm engineer to install your new top. I did, and couldn't be happier with the appearance!

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Hey, GM got ONE right !!!!

LOL..... your's HAS GOT TO BE DONE INCORRECTLY since I am told this is the only way to route the cables right from the dealership service manager !!!

Unbelievable huh? I'm told it's normal, and that's how "they are doing them". Geez.

No wonder I had to lawyer up. Also, I've demanded GM engineers install the top from the beginning, and a new mechanism. Denied. Top #4..... it's no wonder I lawyer-ed up. Too expensive of a car to let them destroy it slowly every service visit.

If I were you I'd demand that they slice up your weatherstripping with a razor blade and do this thing right. (Kidding....)

themoneypit · 08-19-2012, 09:03 AM

I will get some pics up. But hey for all I know, once I do cycle the top the cables might pop out as well... I sure hope not thou! There are no more waves above the doors, and u could bounce a quarter off the top its so tight. I just hope I don't have any more problems with it! I get home tuesday, and will upload some pics then and cycle the top also.

If your dealer wont bring in an engineer, then its time to find a new dealer that will...

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basecar · 08-19-2012, 10:30 AM

how does the inside look, esp in the back seat area and around the rear window?

spikess581 · 08-19-2012, 01:18 PM

This is amazing! Routing the cable is a simple process and the service manager sounds like an arrogant half wit must be a real pleasure dealing with that moron!

themoneypit · 08-20-2012, 08:52 AM

Base car, from looking at the inside quick on the way home, all looked good. Nothing jumped out at me as not fitting properly. I'll get a bunch of photos and do some investigating tomorrow when I get home. Esp around the rear window. Atleast then, all u guys getting sub-par installs thru top shops could print some photos to bring with u to the dealer and say "this is supposed to look like this" etc.

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cactuseater · 08-20-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by themoneypit

I will get some pics up. But hey for all I know, once I do cycle the top the cables might pop out as well... I sure hope not thou! There are no more waves above the doors, and u could bounce a quarter off the top its so tight. I just hope I don't have any more problems with it! I get home tuesday, and will upload some pics then and cycle the top also.

If your dealer wont bring in an engineer, then its time to find a new dealer that will...

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Tried that factory tech route, outright refused by GM to have anyone come in to do it right. I am told, in writing, from Art Spong among others, that the dealer is solely responsible for training it's tech, etc. There will be no GM trained factory techs sent to work on my car, period. Basically told to go pound sand. I tried to get GM to get me a new dealer, not one will touch this car because it has been continuously damaged on every service visit by the current dealer.

cactuseater · 08-20-2012, 02:31 PM

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This is amazing! Routing the cable is a simple process and the service manager sounds like an arrogant half wit must be a real pleasure dealing with that moron!

Yeah, it's an uphill battle.

themoneypit · 08-21-2012, 11:51 AM

heres pics of my new top from a bunch of different angles. i cycled it today, and no cables popped out (phew).

themoneypit · 08-21-2012, 11:52 AM

pony · 08-21-2012, 12:57 PM

OK. Looks good, but how about rolling down back window, and GENTLY lifting the top fabric and taking a pic where the cables are "not showing". (If that makes sense). Is there any exposure of the cables? And where do they exit the molding? Thanks for the pics.

pacecarguy · 08-21-2012, 01:28 PM

themoneypit, your top does look great !

Mine on the other hand.... still waiting for the next step. I refuse to take it back to the original dealer that screwed up the top the first time and have them put another 50+ miles on the car and "try" to understand how to fix it again. Customer sat ladies in the Phillipines I guess told me that I should take it to another local dealer they found with a different trim shop, so I took it over for them to look at and they said they would get back to me. Today got a call "sorry, the DSM won't allow us to work on it since they paid Spitzer Chevrolet to repair it and I need to take it back to them". Have been refused direct contact to the DSM, onsite/engineer repair, new top/frame, etc. Sitting at Wit's end here.... External guide wires, wrinkled headliner, etc.

By any chance did you obtain the 25+ page instruction manual you can share?

SSTOKED · 08-21-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pacecarguy

themoneypit, your top does look great !

Mine on the other hand.... still waiting for the next step. I refuse to take it back to the original dealer that screwed up the top the first time and have them put another 50+ miles on the car and "try" to understand how to fix it again. Customer sat ladies in the Phillipines I guess told me that I should take it to another local dealer they found with a different trim shop, so I took it over for them to look at and they said they would get back to me. Today got a call "sorry, the DSM won't allow us to work on it since they paid Spitzer Chevrolet to repair it and I need to take it back to them". Have been refused direct contact to the DSM, onsite/engineer repair, new top/frame, etc. Sitting at Wit's end here.... External guide wires, wrinkled headliner, etc.

By any chance did you obtain the 25+ page instruction manual you can share?

Have you tried calling the GM Executive office to escalate your case? Seems crazy you can't get an engineer to do it correctly now that it has been screwed up by the dealer.

meSSohappy · 08-21-2012, 05:47 PM

Well, GM customer service and my dealer told me today that everything was normal. That sucks. I guess I will print off some bulletins I found on Facebook along with the new kit part # and go shove it in their face....no more mister nice guy.

08-18-2012, 05:28 PM	#197
themoneypit Drives: 2012 45th convertible ss ls3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 215	So I picked mine up friday. Top looks great! Very tight, no cables popping out, I'm very pleased. I haven't cycled it yet, and I was leaving for the weekend right after I picked it up, so I basically got home and put it in the garage... I'll get some pics on tuesday when I get home. All I can say is demand a gm engineer to install your new top. I did, and couldn't be happier with the appearance! Posted from Camaro5.com App for Android __________________

08-19-2012, 09:03 AM	#199
themoneypit Drives: 2012 45th convertible ss ls3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 215	I will get some pics up. But hey for all I know, once I do cycle the top the cables might pop out as well... I sure hope not thou! There are no more waves above the doors, and u could bounce a quarter off the top its so tight. I just hope I don't have any more problems with it! I get home tuesday, and will upload some pics then and cycle the top also. If your dealer wont bring in an engineer, then its time to find a new dealer that will... Posted from Camaro5.com App for Android __________________

08-20-2012, 08:52 AM	#202
themoneypit Drives: 2012 45th convertible ss ls3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 215	Base car, from looking at the inside quick on the way home, all looked good. Nothing jumped out at me as not fitting properly. I'll get a bunch of photos and do some investigating tomorrow when I get home. Esp around the rear window. Atleast then, all u guys getting sub-par installs thru top shops could print some photos to bring with u to the dealer and say "this is supposed to look like this" etc. Posted from Camaro5.com App for Android __________________

08-21-2012, 11:51 AM	#205
themoneypit Drives: 2012 45th convertible ss ls3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 215	pics as promised heres pics of my new top from a bunch of different angles. i cycled it today, and no cables popped out (phew). __________________

08-21-2012, 11:52 AM	#206
themoneypit Drives: 2012 45th convertible ss ls3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 215	__________________

08-19-2012, 10:30 AM	#200
basecar Drives: 2013 Crystal Red RS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southern IL, Fla Posts: 59	how does the inside look, esp in the back seat area and around the rear window?

08-19-2012, 01:18 PM	#201
spikess581 Drives: IOM2SSconvertible,64 malibu,04fxdwg Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Pa Posts: 356	This is amazing! Routing the cable is a simple process and the service manager sounds like an arrogant half wit must be a real pleasure dealing with that moron!

08-21-2012, 12:57 PM	#207
pony Drives: 2011 2SS Convert; Color RJT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nebraska Posts: 722	OK. Looks good, but how about rolling down back window, and GENTLY lifting the top fabric and taking a pic where the cables are "not showing". (If that makes sense). Is there any exposure of the cables? And where do they exit the molding? Thanks for the pics.

08-21-2012, 01:28 PM	#208
pacecarguy Drives: 2010 Indy 500 Pace Car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Macedonia Ohio Posts: 52 View My Garage	themoneypit, your top does look great ! Mine on the other hand.... still waiting for the next step. I refuse to take it back to the original dealer that screwed up the top the first time and have them put another 50+ miles on the car and "try" to understand how to fix it again. Customer sat ladies in the Phillipines I guess told me that I should take it to another local dealer they found with a different trim shop, so I took it over for them to look at and they said they would get back to me. Today got a call "sorry, the DSM won't allow us to work on it since they paid Spitzer Chevrolet to repair it and I need to take it back to them". Have been refused direct contact to the DSM, onsite/engineer repair, new top/frame, etc. Sitting at Wit's end here.... External guide wires, wrinkled headliner, etc. By any chance did you obtain the 25+ page instruction manual you can share?

08-21-2012, 05:47 PM	#210
meSSohappy Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,372	Well, GM customer service and my dealer told me today that everything was normal. That sucks. I guess I will print off some bulletins I found on Facebook along with the new kit part # and go shove it in their face....no more mister nice guy.