01-22-2021, 05:40 PM | #1 |
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Holley Tall LS Valve Covers
I am going to be installing the Holley Tall LS Valve Covers and have a quick question. It mentions on step 12 as you can see that an external PCV valve may be needed. Is this needed on the ZL1 and if so where would I put this?
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01-22-2021, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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I see many valve covers advertised to fit the LS series engines, but so far none of them state they will fit the LSA that comes in the ZL1 ??
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01-22-2021, 07:49 PM | #3 |
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It says on their site that it fits a ZL1
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01-22-2021, 09:54 PM | #4 | |
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In the main description it lists pretty much all the LS series except the LSA. It's only when you look for parts to fit a 2013 Camaro ZL1, does it state it does fir the ZL1. Hmmmm |
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01-23-2021, 07:44 AM | #5 |
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I have these, the vent had to be seriously restricted otherwise it would fill my catch can in a matter of minutes. Just adding a PCV valve didn't work for me. They also made the plug wires a snug fit. That said, they do look good.
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01-23-2021, 09:33 AM | #6 | |
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01-25-2021, 11:43 AM | #7 |
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So when I went through this, my research indicated that the hose from the valve cover required a restriction. I first tried the recommended PCV valve which didn't work so then I ordered a fancy aluminum restrictor and it too wasn't enough.
I already had a T fitting in the hose because I needed to split the vacuum between the catch can and my NPP (due to the Whipple). So I had a huge brain fart and decided to try a stepped T fitting like this https://www.autozone.com/fittings-an...tor/373175_0_0 I left the side facing the valve cover at the smallest opening and then trimmed the other two so they weren't restricted. So far it has worked perfectly for me, I now get just a small amount of oil in the catch can. If you don't need a T, you can cap it or I'm pretty sure they make the same thing in a straight connector as well.
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01-25-2021, 12:58 PM | #8 | |
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01-25-2021, 01:25 PM | #9 | |
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Any of the three ports (valley and 2 valve covers) will allow you to pull air from the crankcase.
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01-25-2021, 10:08 PM | #10 |
I have the tall holley valve covers on my 12 ZL1 and no issues what so ever. I have a JLT catch can ran to the valley port and supercharger port. I cut the ends off of the breather tubes and used a little 3/8 hose to adapt them to the valvecovers. Supercharger is nice and clean inside and catch can works exacyly as it should.
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01-25-2021, 10:34 PM | #11 |
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Sub'd. - Thanks for real world experience from SiC ZL1 w/ factory PCV, and larry_g's w/ Whipple too!
SiC ZL1 crossed my response but since I already wrote this up, figure I'd post it anyway ... I have been looking into LSA valve cover and PCV compatibility as I build toward the future of my Caprice. From wading through experiences of others here and with Caprice/G8s, it seems the Holley valve covers have minimal flow restriction. Without some sort of PCV valve or flow orifice, a PCV dirty side (outlet from crankcase) connection from an unrestricted valve cover creates an open draw from crankcase to catch can / intake leading to high oil carryover. The factory valve covers with a PCV dirty side connection have built-in flow restrictors and baffling to control this. With a factory valley cover PCV outlet, the dirty side restriction and baffling are in the valley cover. OP - check your factory valve covers or someone can chime in on any flow restrictors in the LSA factory valve covers. The Holleys may work as-is with your setup. Hope this helps, Jim
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01-27-2021, 08:25 PM | #13 |
If my car wasn't in storage at the moment, I'd get you better pics. But hopefully this helps.
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