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MrRaZ28 · 02-04-2010, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

Then why do you drive a POS honda.

Probably the same reason as me: working up the cash to buy a 2010.

detroitboy · 02-04-2010, 09:23 PM

I had a deposit on my new Camaro for 2 years. GM finally built it and put it on a quality hold with no explantion or hint of why or when it would be delivered. I was not about to waste another summer without a hot rod, so I immediately (april 2009)went on the prowl for a GT500 and found a 2008 convertible with 600 miles on it for $41,000 locally. It had already been modded with suspension and exhaust.
That is certainly not much out of the price range for a Camaro, especially considering it is a convertible. I've since driven the Camaro, and friends have them. The GT500 is a totally different animal and is envied by all. I love it, and so do the Camaro owners when they hear the blower whine. Its a beast and it was a blessing in disguise that GM held up my car. As mentioned, I had also thought at GT500 was out of my price range when the dealers were trying to get $20,000 over MSRP for them. I had taken it off of my shopping list over that issue. In fact, it left a very bitter taste in my mouth that Ford would let the dealers do that to their flagship hot rod (yea, I know...interstate commerce laws etc) and I swore I would never buy a Ford product over that issue alone. But...here it is in my garage now and being that they only make a little over 2000 GT500 verts a year it is a very rare car. It was obviously affordable...but I can't say the same for the Camaro convertible when it finally comes out. And its not gonna have a blower on it either at whatever price a buyer will have to pay.
I guess the whole point I'm trying to make is that the term "affordable" is not written in concrete. It changes when a model has been out for a year and some used ones start showing up in the marketplace. I learned to not take a vehicle off your shopping list just because the local dealer is trying to rip you off on markups etc. The Z28 will be a perfect example of that when it finally comes out, and surely they will make more than 2000 per year being that GM needs to pay a few sheckels back to Obama for the cost of staying in business. Used Z06's are another example of that philosophy. The unfortunate owners who paid over MSRP for them have pretty sore backs from bending over when they try to sell them.
Hang in there...you can get the car you want if you have a little bit of patience.

Ukd73 · 02-04-2010, 09:44 PM

Z06 not ever a "Found on the Road Dead" mustang are for the laddies. I to own a silverdo and bought my camaro at the same dealer at MSRP and when the car arrived the sticker was about 1500.00 cheaper and they still honored the msrp 1500.00 off the top.

garagelogic · 02-04-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukd73

Z06 not ever a "Found on the Road Dead" mustang are for the laddies. I to own a silverdo and bought my camaro at the same dealer at MSRP and when the car arrived the sticker was about 1500.00 cheaper and they still honored the msrp 1500.00 off the top.

English much? Mustang(s) are for laddies? I can see that.

lad·die (ld)
n.
A young man

laddie [ˈlædɪ]
n
Chiefly Scot: a familiar term for a young male person

What the heck is a "Silverdo"?

At least you got Z06 right.

Blakout · 02-04-2010, 10:12 PM

Camaro > Shelby Mustang > Mustang. No matter what.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 02-05-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chevyss

With the money in price difference you could build your Camaro so it would blow the paint off the Shelby. No offense Caroll Shelby.

Oh Lord, not this tired argument again. Why not just buy an old Chevy Vega and drop 30K into it and you'd have a car that would blow the doors off the Camaro?

chain1 · 02-05-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukd73

Z06 not ever a "Found on the Road Dead" mustang are for the laddies. I to own a silverdo and bought my camaro at the same dealer at MSRP and when the car arrived the sticker was about 1500.00 cheaper and they still honored the msrp 1500.00 off the top.

Yes, Mustangs were specifically designed for young Scottish men. You really know how to give credibility to your argument. That's for sure.

FirstLSK · 02-05-2010, 10:42 AM

Simple answer -- NO. The mustang just doesn't do it for me.

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soulrebel · 02-05-2010, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

I believe if ford would not have brought out the 05 gt with the retro look we wouldn't have the camaro or the challenger. Thus this forum wouldn't be here and we would all be driving malibu's and tarus's.

I think you are correct that the popularity of the retro look 05 gt led to the development of the new Camaro and Challey. I also think the new SS is what has provoked Ford to up the HP to decent levels in the 2011 Mustang so the Mustang guys owe a little thanks to Chevy for that.

If $ were no object I'd probably have a CTS-V. I'd love to have a Shelby, but in addition to, not in place of the SS.

ffrcobra_65 · 02-05-2010, 11:17 AM

I want both!

djsnoflake · 02-05-2010, 11:23 AM

If I could afford a Shelby, I`d get a Z06

MontyCarlo · 02-05-2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chain1

Yes, Mustangs were specifically designed for young Scottish men. You really know how to give credibility to your argument. That's for sure.

Hey, you've never really lived until you've driven with the top down and the wind blowing through your kilt.

JBAGREG · 02-05-2010, 11:44 AM

Check this out...

2010 SS Camaro = $33,430 MSRP
Vortech + JBA Complete system + Hurst Shifter + B&G Springs = 10K in parts @ Retail
Total = $43,430 for 650Hp

New GT-500 = $49,495 MSRP for 540Hp

I decided to keep the $6065 in the bank and drive away with the extra 110Hp!

garagelogic · 02-05-2010, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBAGREG

Check this out...

2010 SS Camaro = $33,430 MSRP
Vortech + JBA Complete system + Hurst Shifter + B&G Springs = 10K in parts @ Retail
Total = $43,430 for 650Hp

New GT-500 = $49,495 MSRP for 540Hp

I decided to keep the $6065 in the bank and drive away with the extra 110Hp!

Wrong. 2010 GT500 MSRP was $46,725 and got you 540HP with a 5-year manufacturer drivetrain warranty. 2011 GT500 is $49,495 and will get you 550HP with a 5-year manufacturer drivetrain warranty.

You might have 650HP for only $10K on top of the MSRP of the car, but you still drove away in a car worth $33,430 as far as NADA is concerned and with no warranty to boot. Better keep that $6K you "saved" handy, you might need it in the future.

02-04-2010, 09:23 PM	#128
detroitboy Pinholic Drives: 11 Silverado, 08 Shelby GT500 Conv. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Macomb, Mi Posts: 698	I had a deposit on my new Camaro for 2 years. GM finally built it and put it on a quality hold with no explantion or hint of why or when it would be delivered. I was not about to waste another summer without a hot rod, so I immediately (april 2009)went on the prowl for a GT500 and found a 2008 convertible with 600 miles on it for $41,000 locally. It had already been modded with suspension and exhaust. That is certainly not much out of the price range for a Camaro, especially considering it is a convertible. I've since driven the Camaro, and friends have them. The GT500 is a totally different animal and is envied by all. I love it, and so do the Camaro owners when they hear the blower whine. Its a beast and it was a blessing in disguise that GM held up my car. As mentioned, I had also thought at GT500 was out of my price range when the dealers were trying to get $20,000 over MSRP for them. I had taken it off of my shopping list over that issue. In fact, it left a very bitter taste in my mouth that Ford would let the dealers do that to their flagship hot rod (yea, I know...interstate commerce laws etc) and I swore I would never buy a Ford product over that issue alone. But...here it is in my garage now and being that they only make a little over 2000 GT500 verts a year it is a very rare car. It was obviously affordable...but I can't say the same for the Camaro convertible when it finally comes out. And its not gonna have a blower on it either at whatever price a buyer will have to pay. I guess the whole point I'm trying to make is that the term "affordable" is not written in concrete. It changes when a model has been out for a year and some used ones start showing up in the marketplace. I learned to not take a vehicle off your shopping list just because the local dealer is trying to rip you off on markups etc. The Z28 will be a perfect example of that when it finally comes out, and surely they will make more than 2000 per year being that GM needs to pay a few sheckels back to Obama for the cost of staying in business. Used Z06's are another example of that philosophy. The unfortunate owners who paid over MSRP for them have pretty sore backs from bending over when they try to sell them. Hang in there...you can get the car you want if you have a little bit of patience. __________________ Almost had a 2SS/RS, IOM, orange accent interior, 6 speed manual, sunroof & polished wheels ordered 01/19/07 3000 - 2/27/09 3400 - 3/27/09 3800 - 4/17/09 (built and lost in the vortex) ship date ??????? (I gave up and got a GT500) 5/11/09 - order cancelled 5/27/09 - vehicle arrived at dealership for whoever bought it after me

02-04-2010, 10:12 PM	#131
Blakout Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS NPP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 596	Camaro > Shelby Mustang > Mustang. No matter what. __________________

02-05-2010, 10:42 AM	#134
FirstLSK Dude, I love my car !!!! Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS white rally Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 811	Simple answer -- NO. The mustang just doesn't do it for me. . __________________ -------------------------------------------------

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