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B.Buster · 06-14-2010, 10:18 PM

Tested AFR today with wide band,high 11s.Have to get these right before driving too hard. Will test IAT in next day or so.

Thanks Sean ,I will look up those tables

Steve

Matt TuneTime · 06-21-2010, 11:15 AM

I like using that sensor Map and IAT all in one ... Works well and is easy to adjust you just need to know how to scale it in HPT , FYI the edelbrock tune sucks ...and is dangerous IMO ...

B.Buster · 06-22-2010, 08:44 AM

Matt TuneTime, I adjusted my PE scale to get a better AFR as edelebrock does. Are you using the map senser and tuning with a 2 bar OS. If so I would be interested in how to do this. I have HPT and wideband.

My high IAT prob I believe comes from heat soak to senser after car runs,sits and then restarted. It does lower as car runs .

Any help is appreciated.

bilydean · 06-22-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt TuneTime

I like using that sensor Map and IAT all in one ... Works well and is easy to adjust you just need to know how to scale it in HPT , FYI the edelbrock tune sucks ...and is dangerous IMO ...

What exactly sucks and is dangerous about the edelbrock tune?

Dean

NHSS · 06-23-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Buster

My high IAT prob I believe comes from heat soak to senser after car runs,sits and then restarted. It does lower as car runs .

Just had mine on the dyno yesterday, had the same problem. IAT sensor seemed to heat soak between runs. Seems ok while driving though. I'll data log while driving today.

yonson · 06-30-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bilydean

What exactly sucks and is dangerous about the edelbrock tune?

Dean

I would be VERY interested in knowing this as well...

oachalon · 07-13-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yonson

I would be VERY interested in knowing this as well...

Me too.

HaveBlue · 07-14-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by yonson

I would be VERY interested in knowing this as well...

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Originally Posted by oachalon

Me too.

Me too. Maybe due to the fact he's a ProCharger Distributor.

NHSS · 07-14-2010, 11:50 AM

With my LS3 with Kooks headers and the stock Eforce tune, the a/f ratio was close to spot on, but weak on timing, which was to be expected. I was using the stock intake. I could see it being dangerously lean with a cai though.

DSteck · 07-14-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HaveBlue

Me too. Maybe due to the fact he's a ProCharger Distributor.

The canned Procharger tunes leave a lot to be desired as well.

B.Buster · 07-14-2010, 08:04 PM

I would be interested in viewing anyones timing files (HPT) with E-Force. I am still working on IAT. Heat soak is killing me on restart in this hot weather. I'm seeing temps higher than 145 without boost.

HaddadMotorsports · 07-15-2010, 12:13 PM

Any one doing a supercharger should be considering a custom dyno tune.
Its near impossible to have one canned tune work on everybody's cars.

We have experimented time and time again with two exact cars of the same mods and have not been successful transferring one tune to the next without alterations.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

B.Buster · 07-15-2010, 09:24 PM

Haddad, Busy Boi said you knew something about IAT temps and E-Force. Could you share.

NHSS · 07-21-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Buster

I would be interested in viewing anyones timing files (HPT) with E-Force. I am still working on IAT. Heat soak is killing me on restart in this hot weather. I'm seeing temps higher than 145 without boost.

After shut-down and sitting for a few minutes, my IAT gets to 147 deg. I data-logged a drive (just cruising) at 88 deg OAT, and the lowest it reached was 126 deg. I still have the stock t-stat so I'm sure that's not helping things either.

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06-14-2010, 10:18 PM	#15
B.Buster Drives: 2010 AquaBlue 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 342	Tested AFR today with wide band,high 11s.Have to get these right before driving too hard. Will test IAT in next day or so. Thanks Sean ,I will look up those tables Steve

06-21-2010, 11:15 AM	#16
Matt TuneTime Drives: 2008 G8 gt / 2010 Camaro L99 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lakewood Posts: 193	I like using that sensor Map and IAT all in one ... Works well and is easy to adjust you just need to know how to scale it in HPT , FYI the edelbrock tune sucks ...and is dangerous IMO ...

06-22-2010, 08:44 AM	#17
B.Buster Drives: 2010 AquaBlue 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 342	Matt TuneTime, I adjusted my PE scale to get a better AFR as edelebrock does. Are you using the map senser and tuning with a 2 bar OS. If so I would be interested in how to do this. I have HPT and wideband. My high IAT prob I believe comes from heat soak to senser after car runs,sits and then restarted. It does lower as car runs . Any help is appreciated.

07-14-2010, 11:50 AM	#23
NHSS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southern NH Posts: 76	With my LS3 with Kooks headers and the stock Eforce tune, the a/f ratio was close to spot on, but weak on timing, which was to be expected. I was using the stock intake. I could see it being dangerously lean with a cai though.

07-14-2010, 08:04 PM	#25
B.Buster Drives: 2010 AquaBlue 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 342	I would be interested in viewing anyones timing files (HPT) with E-Force. I am still working on IAT. Heat soak is killing me on restart in this hot weather. I'm seeing temps higher than 145 without boost.

07-15-2010, 12:13 PM	#26
HaddadMotorsports Drives: Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inglewood Posts: 532	Any one doing a supercharger should be considering a custom dyno tune. Its near impossible to have one canned tune work on everybody's cars. We have experimented time and time again with two exact cars of the same mods and have not been successful transferring one tune to the next without alterations. Thanks Mike Haddad

07-15-2010, 09:24 PM	#27
B.Buster Drives: 2010 AquaBlue 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 342	Haddad, Busy Boi said you knew something about IAT temps and E-Force. Could you share.